If folks want to dig into this stuff here is where to go:
https://omega-point.medium.com/loose-threads-af8f652ee8cb
This link includes a three hundred page plus pdf file that goes deep into the weeds. From the summary:
“The Advanced Theoretical Physics working group was a collaboration of contractors, scientists, and intelligence community officials devoted to uncovering the truth about the government’s involvement with UFOs, exotic technologies, and related phenomena. The group, formed and directed by Col. John B. Alexander in the mid 80’s”
The book “Out There” was a journalistic deep dive into the activities of the then-current “UFO Working Group”. I *think* (not having the book right here) that he was the one brought in to give a presentation on that earlier research, then sat down to join the meeting, but was then told to leave because the activities were compartmented.
https://search.brave.com/search?q=Col.+John+B.+Alexander
With that being said, two days ago I watched Joe Rogan's interview with Bob Lazar and I believe everything he said about area 51 and the govt. doing all they can to prevent us from discovering what they know.