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The huge problem Andrew Tate is causing teachers in Wales
Wales Online ^ | 5 MAR 2023 | Abbie Wightwick

Posted on 03/06/2023 9:51:58 AM PST by nickcarraway

Tate is currently under investigation for suspected rape and human trafficking in Romania - matters he denies

Teachers in Wales say Andrew Tate is having a toxic effect on boys that is spilling into the classroom. The influencer, who has millions of followers on social media, once said women should “bear some responsibility” for their own rape.

The 36 year-old British-American former kickboxer, 36, is notorious for promoting his ultra-masculine, luxurious lifestyle online. Tate is currently behind bars in Romania under investigation for suspected rape and human trafficking - matters he denies .

Banned from Instagram, where he had 4.6 million followers, he’s also had more than 12 billion views on TikTok. Secondary school teachers said almost all their pupils were aware of Tate and his messages, many of which appear to be aimed at and appeal to pre-teen and teen boys searching for male role models.

Read more: Andrew Tate detained for further 30 days after Romanian court rejects appeal

One teacher said Tate's influence was most apparent on boys aged 12 to 16 in years eight to 11. They like to discuss and voice support for him, even in classes where the subject wouldn’t generally arise, she said.

The former Big Brother contestant peddled an apparently wealthy lifestyle sharing pictures of expensive cars on social media as well as his views on women - such as wives being the property of their husbands - and how to be manly.

His views also saw him banned from Facebook and Tate is being held in Romania while he is being investigated for alleged sexual assault and exploitation.

Teachers warned that boys are taking in the former Big Brother contestant's brand of toxic masculinity. They said he's become the poster boy for growing misogyny across some social media platforms boys use.

“A lot of boys look up to him as a figure of male strength," said one teacher in a south Wales secondary, "When you try to talk to some of them about the truth of Andrew Tate they just don’t believe that he has been locked up suspicion of rape and trafficking and say it’s 'fake news'.

“When I have asked them about the disgusting things he says about women they say it’s a joke. When I’ve asked if they would like their mothers and sisters to be spoken of like that some have said they wouldn’t, but then say it’s OK because the women Tate talks about are 'pussies'."

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The teacher said she was worried about the influence these views had on girls, most of whom chose to “stay silent” when boys started talking about and defending Tate in class.

“I talked to one boy who said the reason he listened to and followed Andrew Tate was because he didn’t have a dad. I think a lack of positive male influence feeds into this.

“Some of the boys genuinely want to have conversations about Tate, not just to be controversial. But I think in the end it could create a disregard towards female authority in schools and also dangerous attitudes towards girls their own age.”

Another teacher said staff in her school had a general policy of telling pupils they would not tolerate talk about Andrew Tate and tried to close down conversations about the influencer. She feared that refusing to discuss his “dangerous views” might make Tate more appealing and would prevent boys hearing the truth.

“There is a lack of proper discussion about how dangerous his views are because some boys use Tate as a talking point to cause disruption and offence in class.”

She believes some of the language children use when they talk about the self-styled hard man is reminiscent of grooming. She said some of their responses are red flags: “It’s a real safeguarding issue. They tend to use terminology Tate uses without being able to explain what it means when asked.

Another teacher said that it isn’t just vulnerable boys who look up to Tate. Because not all his messages are bad, they pick up on the good ones and then get lured into thinking all his views are acceptable, he said.

None of the teachers wanted to be named, saying they did not want to single out their schools as they believe Tate is a corrosive influence on boys in all schools now. And they warned many pupils don’t seem to fully understand the man’s prejudices and misogyny - instead seeing him as someone to look up to and copy.

Geoff Barton, general secretary of the ASCL teachers’ union had said that school leaders plan to discuss Mr Tate’s influence at their next general meeting.

Tate is being held with his brother Tristan and two others in Romania on suspicion of human trafficking, rape and forming an organised crime group. They deny all allegations. Police have not yet filed any charges against them, but they remain in custody.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: pornographer

1 posted on 03/06/2023 9:51:58 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Waaah! We’re laymos and Andrew Tate is more of a man that we are. We’re jealous!


2 posted on 03/06/2023 9:58:11 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: nickcarraway

Never heard of Andrew Tate, until the MSM propaganda ramped up against him.

From the content and style of propaganda, its clear he’s not “dangerous” in any sense of the word - EXCEPT that he has offended woke commissars in the UK and USA. His political thought crimes must be punished.


3 posted on 03/06/2023 9:59:12 AM PST by PGR88
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To: nickcarraway

Snowflakes ❄️ melt. It’s what they do.


4 posted on 03/06/2023 9:59:44 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Roberor thert Heinlein)
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To: PGR88

The funny thing is Tate is a wokester.


5 posted on 03/06/2023 10:00:08 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“Because not all his messages are bad, they pick up on the good ones and then get lured into thinking all his views are acceptable”

This is the problem with all influences on children. Young skulls full of mush are gullible.


6 posted on 03/06/2023 10:02:21 AM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: HombreSecreto

Tate is no different from a two bit pimp and not to be admired.


7 posted on 03/06/2023 10:07:26 AM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

“I talked to one boy who said the reason he listened to and followed Andrew Tate was because ***he didn’t have a dad.***

I think a lack of positive male influence feeds into this.

and there it is...


8 posted on 03/06/2023 10:11:57 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Valpal1

At least a two bit pimp is not promoting leftism on social media.


9 posted on 03/06/2023 10:16:39 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Just because Tate has developed a unique blend of filth doesn’t change the fact that it’s still filth.


10 posted on 03/06/2023 10:27:25 AM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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Apparently some people believe certain perversions are better than others...but one leads to another. Can’t be upset over the perversions of people taking little kids to LGBTQ porn / strip shows at “pride nights” but okay with Andrew Tate’s porn and other perversions - one being acceptable leads to more perversions being acceptable. You don’t stop the train of perversion and evil once it starts down the tracks.


11 posted on 03/06/2023 10:43:50 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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It’s like people don’t understand that the mess we’re in today started 75 years ago.

Hugh Hefner and Playboy was just an opening act.


12 posted on 03/06/2023 11:10:13 AM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: PGR88
From the content and style of propaganda, its clear he’s not “dangerous” in any sense of the word - EXCEPT that he has offended woke commissars in the UK and USA. His political thought crimes must be punished.

Any person with decency would find it dangerous / troubling that young boys are looking up to a pornographer and an actual admitted misogynist as a role model.

Though the people in this article would probably be fine with the same kids going to a drag show with men dressed as women doing strip shows.

13 posted on 03/06/2023 1:20:40 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Valpal1

Exactly. “Oh, we didn’t want to go *that* far down that road.” You start travelling that road you stay on it. If that stuff you mention was still unacceptable in mainstream culture, the drag queen strip shows for kids would never have become a thing.


14 posted on 03/06/2023 1:22:05 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Any person with decency would find it dangerous / troubling that young boys are looking up to a pornographer and an actual admitted misogynist as a role model.

I'm not here to defend the guy, but a quick look at his bio doesn't seem he runs any porn sites. He seems be a type that's into quick-buck schemes. Your raising the idea of "drag shows" is a red-herring - has Tate ever been involved in those? I highly doubt it.

But regardless, America has LOTS of true pornographers, and America supports LOTS of drag-queen organizers. The US MSM, DOJ and foreign police are NOT chasing them.

15 posted on 03/06/2023 1:35:56 PM PST by PGR88
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On December 29, Romanian authorities arrested Tate and his brother at his Bucharest mansion on charges of human trafficking. Six women have accused Andrew Tate (and other suspects) of running a “lover-boy” scheme in which they persuaded women they wanted a relationship but then forced them to perform in pornographic videos. He remains in jail without bail on charges of rape and sex trafficking.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2023/01/andrew-tate-symptom-of-the-sexual-revolution


16 posted on 03/06/2023 8:21:30 PM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Valpal1

Yeah. He’s probably a bad guy.


17 posted on 03/06/2023 8:22:40 PM PST by PGR88
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