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To: RandFan

I’m with you on this. Talk is cheap Florida ain’t the WH. Power goes up exponentially. I think we should tread softly. IMO


2 posted on 03/02/2023 11:59:58 PM PST by Equine1952
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To: Equine1952

Great point and he seems to be following the Bush/governor model when running for president

“I did this, that and this” in Texas (or Florida in Ron’s case).

So what?

I don’t doubt he has many accomplishments but it means nothing to me.

Just don’t be fooled again by the slick talk.


4 posted on 03/03/2023 12:25:21 AM PST by RandFan
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" Talk is cheap Florida ain’t the WH. Power goes up exponentially [??? emphasis added]."

Thank you for posting Equine1952.

I respectfully disagree about state powers v. federal powers Equine1952.

More specifically, regardless that FN wants everybody to believe that the Oval Office of the constitutionally limited power federal government is somehow the most powerful peacetime office in the land, the drafters of the Constitution actually reserved the lion's share of government power to serve the people to the states, not the corrupt federal government.

In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had clarified that the founders had left the care of the people with the states, not the federal government.

”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)

In other words, most federal domestic policy is based on stolen state powers and likewise stolen state revenues uniquely associated with those powers, the feds stealing state revenues by means of unconstitutional federal taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

The reason that the country is the mess it is today is because misguided Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, followed by likewise corrupt FDR, RINO Bushes, Obama, and now Biden, have all helped to knock the country off of its constitutional foundation imo.

So if DeSantis, or any other governor, wants to serve the most possible people under the Constitution that they can, then they need to keep their governors' offices and let the feds worry about delivering the mail, one of the very few powers that the states have actually expressly constitutionally given the feds to dictate domestic policy.

(These days I wouldn't trust the corrupt feds with the constitutionally express power of national dogcatcher.)

Patriots need for "street fighter" Trump 47 to finish draining the swamp, especially cleaning up the Democratic-weaponized judiciary.

Finishing the job of draining the swamp will hopefully include Trump working with a new round of MAGA state and federal lawmakers to surrender state powers that the post-17th Amendment ratification feds have been stealing from the states since before the ink on the Constitution was dry back to the states.

Trump can then finish his second term by spending even more time on the golf course than Obama did, an appropriate way for the leader of a peacetime, constitutionally limited power federal government whose founders intended for it to be lame duck 24/7 to spend much free time.

140 posted on 03/03/2023 7:25:30 AM PST by Amendment10
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I’m with you on this. Talk is cheap Florida ain’t the WH. Power goes up exponentially. I think we should tread softly. IMO


In addition to all of that, so many of those with DeSantis Syndrome talk/write as if he did all of these things by himself. No one seems to talk about the legislature, the county commissions/city councils, Sheriffs and Police Chiefs, and a majority Republican citizenry helped by 883,000 Republican’s moving to Florida.

Give him a legislature that hates him and everything he stands for(even the Republican’s in it), give him Sheriffs/Police Chiefs/County Commissions/City Councils that hate him, sue him and ignore him, give him a sizable chunk of the population that hates him for reasons they don’t even know, give him an Attorney Generals office that will collude with law enforcement in an attempt to impeach/imprison him and lets see how successful he is.

The people of Florida are very, very lucky to have him, a legislature that actually seems to car, and local governments that actually seem to care.

And to all those with DeSantis Syndrome...he didn’t make them Conservatives, they moved to Florida that way, finally figuring out a way to get out of NY, NJ, Conn, etc etc, or they moved for work.

People have been moving to that state forever. Covid and all the nonsense that went with it, some of which he fully supported, just made it more of an issue.


162 posted on 03/03/2023 10:09:45 AM PST by qaz123
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For public consumption

https://www.businessinsider.com/ron-desantis-gets-angry-with-reporter-exchange-ukraine-policy-biden-2023-3?utmSource=twitter&utmContent=referral&utmTerm=topbar&referrer=twitter


180 posted on 03/03/2023 11:07:29 AM PST by qaz123
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