[cowboyusa]

North Korea is not doing well, and they are all of the same race. The Chinese learned how to do Perestroika without Glasnost.
It is a shame that Reagan was not listened to, and a more Capitalist Black Government was not allowed to come in.

[aquila48]

I’m not arguing that Marxism is not bad.

What I’m saying is that SA is no more Marxist than China or the Scandinavian countries. They allow free enterprise and private property, the denial of which is the essence of Marxism.

And even a Marxist country like North Korea is in way better shape than these hell holes.

The problem is the character of the people. And if you want to nail it down even further - it’s the AVERAGE IQ of the population. It’s the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about.

Check out the excellent post #66 from someone who’s lived there and has first hand experience.