What might a DeSantis foreign policy look like?

Yeah, cringeworthy I admit. I pray he learned from that mistake.

The buck never stops at Trump, for anything, does it.

Kanye didn’t have a generation in government to screw it up like George Bush did!

He maintained wars against Afghanistan and Yemen while he was president, as well as firing missiles at Syria.

He isn’t a neocon.

I see no proof Trump has learned from anything. He’s still screaming like a madman on his website, running around with the likes of Lindsey Graham and Kevin McCarthy, insisting on no cuts to any Federal spending, championing mDNA injections, etc.

Most Republicants haven’t learned anything and want Trump erased and to go back to the “managed decline” of America last.

I’m just pointing out the truth you anti-Trumpers attempt to obscure.

Fox News Having Trouble Finding DeSantis Supporters in Florida for 2024 Presidential Run

February 28, 2023 | Sundance | 110 Comments

Fox News has a big sad today.

CONTEXT – After months of promoting Ron DeSantis to become the 2024 GOP nominee, which includes the efforts of Rupert Murdoch (and family) via a multimillion-dollar Harper Collins book deal for the Florida governor; lengthy friendly interviews with DeSantis on every program; a full feature infomercial running on Fox News to present him to the national audience; attendance by key program pundits at DeSantis donor events and campaign organization meetings; weeks of specific messaging coordinated with board member Paul Ryan – and the consulting efforts of Karl Rove with the DeSantis operation; they are just not able to move the needle.

With the DeSantis book launch officially taking place today, Fox News Corp sends Brian Kilmeade to Florida to assist the DeSantis operation. Producers used the entire Fox and Friends morning programming to support the intent and Ron DeSantis’s ‘big day’. [See Long Video Here] However, when Brian Kilmeade broadcasts live from the Metro Diner in Ponte Vedra beach to promote the DeSantis narrative, the diners at the venue did not go along with the anticipated narrative. {Direct Rumble Link}

What follows in the live broadcast becomes a hilarious exhibition in how media-driven astroturf propaganda runs directly into the reality of the situation. It really is quite funny to see the escalating desperation of Mr. Kilmeade as he asks whether the audience supports Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis for the 2024 GOP nomination and cannot find anyone who puts DeSantis first – even the lady wearing the DeSantis T-shirt supports Trump first.

WATCH:

Fox News Massive Failure Trying to Promote DeSantis over Trump MAGA

But wait, it gets better….. Even more funny.

Corporate Fox News is not going to give up, they had this whole production scripted. Karl Rove who is a key consultant in the managing and branding effort, is left retreating to the narrative that DeSantis doesn’t need to do anything yet. {Direct Rumble Link}

Watch below:

FOX big push for DeSantis

Rove is facing a big challenge. The Atwater-Rove days of gaslighting, manipulating and ultimately controlling the republican illusion of choice are in the rear-view mirror. The traditional mechanisms have collapsed and are no longer useful as the electorate have become more aware, and simultaneously the grassroots communication platforms have evolved.

Even extremely expensive political Astroturf is much harder now. People can just see through the issues and the fallacies are debunked in almost real time.

Rupert Murdoch has a sad.

Paul Ryan has a sad.

Karl Rove has a sad,….

…..and I’m over here enjoying every moment of it.

I’m just pointing out the truth you anti-Trumpers attempt to obscure.

I didn't try to obscure anything. You said that Trump appointed Bolton because Trump's biggest donor, the dual citizen Israeli casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, directed him to. Where did I deny any of that? Sounds likely, actually.

That was early. Conditions changed and so do people.

That was early. Conditions changed and so do people. By the way, Reagan and Trump we’re democrats.

The only reason Trump brought that clown Bolton onboard is because his biggest donor Adelson insisted upon it.

Lots on FR saying they support Trump he can't be bought or controlled by donors owing to his great fortune. So which way is it?

He took Bolton on to mollify a donor, that doesn’t mean he took Bolton’s advice. He obviously didn’t, they were at loggerheads over policy. Trump even came out and called Bolton a nutjob. So pretending that Bolton reflects Trump’s views is a disingenuous lie, typical of you neocons.

Even Dumbya ran out of patience with Bolton.

Bush never rushed an untested vaccine out to the public either

The point is he did something to mollify a donor. And it was a big deal something. Those who claim Trump can’t be influenced by donors can’t turn around and make excuses for him by saying he was just pleasing a donor.

I am hardly a neocon!!!

Here’s the problem. Trump chose a succession of neocons, Haley (total whacko), Pompeo, etc. Would DeSantis be any better when it comes to choosing a foreign policy team? We have yet to see. So far, it looks iffy.

Trump is the ONLY one calling for negotiations, I think that should settle the matter. Get back to me when DeSantis says it’s time to end this thing.

Lately, DeSantis has indicated he’s not in the neocon camp re Ukraine:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/02/ron-desantis-goes-full-trump-on-ukraine.html

But he’s he’s doing some fence sitting there, imho, and checking the wind.

What did Trump do re Ukraine when president?

Hmm, looks neocon to me:

https://web.archive.org/web/20171018214324/https://strategic-culture.org/news/2017/08/14/ukraine-hosts-us-military-permanently-stationed-on-its-soil.html

I remember Trump repeatedly saying he had given provided Ukraine weaponry that Obama denied them. Hmm.

On the other hand, he urged the newly-elected Zelensky to negotiate with Putin (sounds like, at least in front of press, wanted him to implement Minsk). But he did not follow up on that.

If Trump had insisted on Minsk being implemented, and put an end to our treating Ukraine like a de facto junior member of NATO, we would not have this war. I realize his hands were tied in many ways because Russia-Russia-Russia, but the fact remains he did not do these two key things that would have prevented the war.

DeSantis and Haley blame Biden pulling out of Afghanistan for emboldening Putin. Maybe so, but I’ve come to wonder if that hasty pullout was in preparation for the war in Ukraine, as the neocons were planning to goad the bear into invading Ukraine. It wouldn’t do to have our troops sitting in Afghanistan with NATO in a hot proxy war with Russia. Besides, there was the added bonus of leaving all those cool toys that go boom in terrorist hands in Russia’s vicinity for Putin to have to keep an eye out for.

Right now, the only politician talking sense on foreign policy is Tulsi Gabbard, and she isn’t running.

I really like what DeSantis is doing in Florida. I’m troubled that Paul Ryan is endorsing him, and Karl Rove and Jeb Bush and ...