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Military warns troops to avoid poppy seeds
CNN ^ | Feb. 22, 2023

Posted on 02/22/2023 12:21:05 PM PST by PROCON

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To: jz638

“...the drug tests used by the military are a load of expensive garbage?”

They aren’t garbage if they are doing what they are designed to do. Golden Flow was designed to determine the use or misuse of drugs in a military member’s system. And not all the times is it explainable. Do you want a person strung out on junk next to you downrange? I didn’t nor did I wish to lack support for my fellow member by my indiscretions. They don’t track Tylenol but altering drugs. I was using banned drugs for medical treatment and went positive a couple of times. Took the bottle to the commander, and it was ignored. I missed some TDY’s due to the drug discovery. But I can see the reasons. And they do work if not set up wrong.

wy69


41 posted on 02/22/2023 4:11:56 PM PST by whitney69
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They aren’t garbage if they are doing what they are designed to do. Golden Flow was designed to determine the use or misuse of drugs in a military member’s system. And not all the times is it explainable. ... But I can see the reasons. And they do work if not set up wrong.

The American military in general was never a place that rewarded logical thought processes. Commanders, as you apparently unfortunately found out, are not inclined -- nor are they rewarded professionally -- for handling unorthodox but explainable situations with unorthodox solutions.

If poppy seeds are not a drug (and they're not), there's no reason to prohibit their consumption. There is also no earthly reason for anyone to defend a stupid decision just because an idiot in an important-sounding position made it.

There are plenty of very simple ways to distinguish between an opioid user and a poppy seed enthusiast.

42 posted on 02/22/2023 6:46:17 PM PST by jz638
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Kolache


43 posted on 02/23/2023 12:01:35 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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Getting caught in a golden flow is not just because someone was abusing opium through the use of poppy seeds. With the process needed to ingest enough to get any feelings at all, it is a pain in the neck.

But there is more than just getting a high, there are other side effects that are a detriment to the military member and their mission. Poppy seeds contain opioid alkaloids presenting symptoms of opioid addiction. These include the following:

• Mood swings
• Dilated pupils
• Flushed, itchy skin
• Nodding off
• Fatigue
• Increased tolerance
• Withdrawal symptoms
• Troubled relationships
• Financial issues
• Withdrawal from society

None of these are positive for the work involved in the business.

https://www.genesisrecovery.com/poppy-seeds-high/

There is never a single, solitary reason for anything in the business. Please don’t let the media create the myth of punishment and not all the possibilities of the use of golden flow. If a troop can get through that is actually using opioids more than just eating muffins, that will be discovered in the follow on investigation. Just going positive doesn’t end the investigation right there. It only starts it. But the benefits for the member and the business will be recovered in time.

Wy69


44 posted on 02/23/2023 7:12:09 AM PST by whitney69
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