Posted on 02/19/2023 10:43:13 AM PST by BenLurkin
Nice. My dad was 82nd Airborne, he said jumping out of planes not on fire or out of gas is crazy. That and Vietnam got me on the boats. The draft would have just missed me but I hated school. Then Uncle Sam and his nuke school proved to me I was an idiot. Beat the jungle though. I got friends who will testify to it.
I toured a diesel sub in San Diego in the early sixties. I was just little pipsqueak, but the sub even seemed cramped to me.
Stupidity.
Frustrated Japanese sub commanders complaining about the lack of targets, day after day all that passes by them are troop ships, never a battleship or carrier to actually shoot at.
Japan is an island nation. Cutting off their supply line was paramount to winning the war.
War is not healthy for children or other living things.
What he's saying is that the Japanese were stupid in their use of submarines.
It was total war. We also flattened cities full of civilians. So did all the other combatants.
Normally I would complain about not following the Geneva Convention but when you have an enemy like the Imperial Japanese were who does not follow the Geneva Convention either then so be it. No Quarter.
“Sorry sailors ,I’m having difficulty squaring this with American ideals”
How brutal was the Bataan Death March?
Thousands of troops died because of the brutality of their captors, who starved and beat the marchers, and bayoneted those too weak to walk. Survivors were taken by rail from San Fernando to POW camps, where thousands more died from disease, murder and starvation.Dec 12, 2022
Germans weren’t. We stole some ideas from them. Early in WWII, we didn’t do unrestricted warfare. Then things changed. Our torpedos sucked early on too. The Japanese long lance torpedo was very good. Not all the boats were commanded by captains that would fight the boat in a tough way. The second gen Captains like Morton, O’Kane and others soon took the reins. The USS Cavalla sunk the carrier Suikaku in June of ‘44, fired 6 torpedoes and 3 hit. A legend was born. We had a fast attack boat carry on the name. I had a good friend on it. I toured the U-505 in Chicago as a kid. You’re right, totally cramped. The German U-boats were more cramped than ours and played Billy-hell in the North Atlantic. They kind of invented unrestricted submarine warfare. Our boats took it up to the next level. Now our FBM’s hide out and wait to destroy a country and our attack boats hunt something to kill, just like everybody else, underway underwater.
Sunken Ships of the Second World War is an interactive map showing the locations of 13,000 ships which were sunken during the Second World War.
https://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2020/03/sunken-ships-of-first-second-world-war.html
Maps of 8,000 sunken ships from WW2.
Zoom in and drag around the map.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1x7Q2wEHD_NV-5MeFWcWB2BRH97Y&hl=en_US&ll=14.031067501663955%2C121.92722821284781&z=5
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/dxe7a6/map_of_all_ships_sunk_during_ww2_nearly_8000/
Stay off the ocean around Ireland!!
14,414 shipwrecks around Ireland.
https://www.businessinsider.com/map-shows-3500-shipwrecks-around-ireland-most-remain-total-mystery-2018-6
Not saying we WERE cowardly, just that we were perceived as such by the Japanese. If they had employed their submarines in the same way we did, the war could very well have lasted longer. NOT a good thing.
U.S. Submarines sank the following major Japanese combatant ships of 1,000 tons or more:
Aircraft Carriers 4 SHINANO@, SHOKAKU, TAIHO, UNRYU
Escort Aircraft Carriers 4 CHUYO, JINYO, OTAKA, UNYO
Battleships 1 KONGO
Heavy Cruisers 4 ATAGO, KAKO, MAYO, ASHIGARA#
Light Cruisers 9 AGANO, IZUZU, NAGARA, NATORI, OI, TATSUTA, TENRYU, YUBARI, and TAMA (in combination with aircraft)
Destroyers 38 (One sunk in combination with aircraft)
Submarines 23
Brave men doing brave deeds. Better get back to your couch I think Oprah is going to on soon
The japs were viciously evil, but they were not stupid...
Almost 100% of all their war-fighting raw natural resources had to be imported...
They focused on our fleet because there were no long columns of supply ships bringing required raw war-fighting resources to the American mainland...
The few that did exist were being handled by the German U-Boats quite handily as they came from South America through the Caribbean to the U.S.
The U.S., way back then, had massive homeland resources of raw materials, the planet's largest manufacturing base, and hard-working patriots who loved their country...
All of these have been deliberately eliminated in the past 50 years...
Oh yes they were stupid. They had superb submarines and torpedoes but did not use them in any meaningful way to interdict supplies flowing from the west coast to Australia, or from Britain east through the Indian Ocean to Australia.
My father missed serving in WWII but served during the Korean conflict. He worked with a guy served in WWII and survived the Bataan death march. He was besides himself seeing younger people buying Toyotas and Hondas and refused to ride in one.
USS Albacore....Still On Patrol....
I was on Cavalla for 4+ years towards the end of the Cold War.
There was a plaque on the bulkhead next to the weapons shipping hatch dedicated to our namesake from WWII...got to read that every time I went in or out of the hatch.
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