[buwaya]

“We’re the ones that did everything we could to make the war in Ukraine happen.”

Yes, by approving Nordstream II and withdrawing from Afghanistan, and looking weak and useless.

[Kazan]

Wrong we went out of our way to make this war happen by 1)fomenting a coup in Ukraine and by installing a new government illegal that was hostile to both Russia and ethnic Russians in Ukraine 2) Arming Ukraine, training troops there, running biolabs with deadly pathogens in them there and by teasing NATO membership for Ukraine.

There is no chance in hell we'd tolerate China or Russia doing in Mexico what we did in Ukraine.

And, the Russians consistently sought peace -- with the Minsk Accords; by seeking to negotiate to avoid war in December of 2021 and by negotiating an end to it in March. At every turn, WE pushed for war.

We wanted this proxy war because the powers that be that they could win and then rape Russia of money and resources like we've done in Ukraine.