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Breakthrough in Battery Technology: Progress on Fast-Charging Lithium-Metal Batteries
Scitech Daily ^ | FEBRUARY 9, 2023 | By UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, SAN DIEGO

Posted on 02/09/2023 1:26:06 PM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 02/09/2023 1:26:06 PM PST by Red Badger
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Too bad we are not mining the lithium here just because doing so is an environmental nightmare. But I’m sure we can buy it forever from the Chinese.


2 posted on 02/09/2023 1:36:08 PM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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So how big are the copper wires going to be to charge these new batteries quickly?

Who’s building the nuclear power plants to charge these things?


3 posted on 02/09/2023 1:42:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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What's the big deal here? I'm not getting it. Am I missing something?

The article leads with: "These batteries are capable of charging in as little as an hour...".

We already see that. At a 150kW DC fast charger my EV charges from 15% to 80% in 15 minutes (closer to 10 minutes with a 350kW charger, though admittedly the battery charges that fast only in the first few minutes when the charge level is low). I can charge it completely to 100% in 30-40 minutes if I'm eating dinner plate lunch or otherwise taking a break to make it worth waiting an extra 15 or 25 minutes to top out the last 20%.

4 posted on 02/09/2023 1:48:32 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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So the future is getting a Fast Charge refill in only 1 Hour:-)


5 posted on 02/09/2023 1:48:38 PM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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I do not believe that Lithium is the future. It is too rare a material to be used on a worldwide basis for a very long time.

The battery that will work best will be something that makes use of material that is relatively common and abundant, like sodium.

I view the use of lithium as very limited.


6 posted on 02/09/2023 1:50:11 PM PST by Jonty30 (THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
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With these monthly technology breakthroughs, batteries are now unlimited in capacity, unlimited in number of charge cycles, last for a minimum of 100 years, hold its charge for 20 years on the shelf, very light weight, very small, and cheaper than than a bic lighter!


7 posted on 02/09/2023 1:50:17 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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Fast charging you say. And much does this fast charging make this battery die sooner? This always seems to be a problem.

As in you buy a new Tesla automobile. If you only charge it up via fast charging. You will have to replace your battery years sooner. A relative goes in for this EV stuff. He has a charging station in his garage. I must assume that you can regulate the charging speed at home? Right? So that you can dial it back. To where his Tesla (Chevy Bolt too) get charged more slowly over 8 hours.


8 posted on 02/09/2023 1:50:57 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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Amazing - and we can charge them up with our any-day-now fusion reactors.
9 posted on 02/09/2023 1:57:46 PM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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New way to start house fires?


10 posted on 02/09/2023 1:58:20 PM PST by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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To: Tell It Right

The difference is no dendrites. So the battery can be fast charged every time and never lose any capacity and last 20 or 30 years or more.


11 posted on 02/09/2023 2:08:37 PM PST by BereanBrain
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Yeah, ok.


12 posted on 02/09/2023 2:09:13 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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lithium? Pshaw...

I’m waiting for the dilithium crystals. Then we can use the matter/antimatter reactor.


13 posted on 02/09/2023 2:10:15 PM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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“With these monthly technology breakthroughs, batteries are now —— cheaper than than a bic lighter!”

And strike up a fire like a bic lighter, and burn the garage and any adjacent structures to the ground.

Like a previous poster said, they are not the future.

Lithium is too rare, too costly, too heavy and batteries made from such are fire hazards.


14 posted on 02/09/2023 2:14:01 PM PST by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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A relative goes in for this EV stuff. He has a charging station in his garage.

Brave soul. Hope his insurance will cover it.

15 posted on 02/09/2023 2:20:33 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (eleutheromaniac)
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I’m afraid to ask - is this “just around the corner”?


16 posted on 02/09/2023 2:34:39 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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So tired of all the “breakthroughs” that are not commercially viable.

The west is exploiting the Third World for these resources while our banks deny them the loans to build power generation.

This is western enslavement of nations that will hate us for generations because we kept them in poverty instead of lifting them out.


17 posted on 02/09/2023 2:34:59 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Make America Florida)
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“What’s the big deal here? I’m not getting it. Am I missing something?
The article leads with: “These batteries are capable of charging in as little as an hour...”. “

From the article...

“This new approach, led by University of California San Diego engineers, enables charging of lithium-metal batteries in about an hour, a speed that is competitive against today’s lithium-ion batteries.”

I guess you have lithium-ion.

So what’s the advantage of lithium metal? Higher power density? Lower cost?


18 posted on 02/09/2023 2:40:32 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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True. But really enjoyed your tag!! LOL


19 posted on 02/09/2023 2:43:30 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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Lithium metal is a surprisingly highly reactive element, much like sodium and potassium. When lithium metal comes into contact with water, it forms lithium hydroxide and hydrogen gas, and a LOT of heat, which then ignites the hydrogen in the presence of oxygen.

One of the reasons it is so hard to extinguish a fire ignited by a lithium battery.


20 posted on 02/09/2023 2:46:42 PM PST by alloysteel (Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. - Isaac Asimov)
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