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Rolls-Royce Nuclear Engine Could Power Quick Trips to the Moon and Mars
gizmodo ^ | Kevin Hurler

Posted on 02/07/2023 8:28:50 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: Yo-Yo

The New Horizons vehicle that went to Pluto uses (unironically) a plutonium power source for electricity but not for propulsion.


21 posted on 02/07/2023 9:03:57 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: dfwgator

Are there “people who annoy you” on Mars?


22 posted on 02/07/2023 9:06:46 AM PST by Clarancebeaks
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To: alloysteel

It’s ion drive. There are U.S. companies that have been making them for years. They have higher specific impulse (change in momentum per kilogram of fuel) than chemical rockets, but not enough peak thrust to escape the surly bonds of earth.


23 posted on 02/07/2023 9:07:57 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: BenLurkin

And I just happen to be reading Stranger in a Strange Land as we speak!


24 posted on 02/07/2023 9:08:52 AM PST by thefactor
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To: sonova

I know steam turbines make props move on board ships, I’m just having trouble understanding the mechanics of rocket propulsion via nuclear reactor.


25 posted on 02/07/2023 9:31:21 AM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: BenLurkin

The USA built one in the 60’s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDNX65d-FBY
The key was building a reactor that used ceramics instead of water cooling/moderator.

The plan was to replace the Apollo Service Module with Nerva engine and then fly it to Mars.


26 posted on 02/07/2023 9:49:23 AM PST by Zathras
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To: telescope115

Well, there’s always Project Orion.


27 posted on 02/07/2023 9:50:52 AM PST by ferret_airlift
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To: ferret_airlift

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress


28 posted on 02/07/2023 10:07:52 AM PST by desertsolitaire (Nothing Changes if Nothing Changes.)
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To: BenLurkin

Once again it’s between the US and Brittan as to which engine will be best suited for travel, like in the P-51 Mustang, Allison vs Merlin rolls 61. Just a thought.


29 posted on 02/07/2023 10:18:03 AM PST by Rappini (In hoc signo vinces)
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To: BenLurkin

Can’t Quick Trip just continue to operate off the grid?


30 posted on 02/07/2023 10:18:09 AM PST by GingisK
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To: telescope115

They are used to raise a high voltage, which is then used to accelerate an ionized gas out the thrust nozzle. Heating a gas would also provide for a fast moving reaction mass.


31 posted on 02/07/2023 10:20:29 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The New Horizons vehicle that went to Pluto uses (unironically) a plutonium power source for electricity but not for propulsion.?

So did most deep space probes like V'ger (Voyager. Sorry, Star Trek reference there.)

Those nuclear batteries were much smaller than what would be necessary for a crewed spacecraft's Ion drive.

32 posted on 02/07/2023 10:25:25 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: GingisK

I was just reading Wikipedia’s article about them. It would be great to see a successful design actually working on a rocket. It seems like there are a lot of designs, but even a successful one will still have to deal with government bureaucracy and environmentalists.

I hope Elon Musk will get to launch Starship soon.


33 posted on 02/07/2023 11:03:00 AM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: BenLurkin

We’ve already sent rockets to the moon and Mars (and in fact, out of the solar system as well), so I hardly see the point.


34 posted on 02/07/2023 12:07:11 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: telescope115

It’s the old action reaction concept. Instead of the reactor boiling water in the steam generator to turn a turbine, the reactor is used to heat a gas and expel it through a nozzle. The gas at a given temperature and pressure is heated by passing through or near the core which increases it temperature and pressure. When it is released through the nozzle, it creates thrust from the velocity of its molecules being released.


35 posted on 02/07/2023 12:29:45 PM PST by 103198 (It's the metadata stupid...)
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To: telescope115

Looks like you got enough explanations to sink the Bismark. ;-D


36 posted on 02/07/2023 12:33:56 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK
You're describing a nuclear ion drive, which I don't believe is as efficient as a nuclear direct rocket.

Here's a video from Marcus (out of Australia, Tasmania) who follows Space X and other launches on a weekly basis. I watch on YouTube to see what Musk is doing in Boca Chica, Texas and the cape. This is one of his specialty videos about nuclear space propulsion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLD4DpuGWUA.

37 posted on 02/07/2023 12:42:32 PM PST by 103198 (It's the metadata stupid...)
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To: BenLurkin

Hi.

I don’t have the cajones to be strapped into a capsule sitting on top of six tons of hydrazine and liquid oxygen and let someone light a match.

Maybe if they can figure out nuclear propulsion, I’ll go.

5.56mm


38 posted on 02/07/2023 12:48:24 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go.)
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To: dfwgator

All this science, I don’t understand.


39 posted on 02/07/2023 12:54:01 PM PST by shotgun
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To: shotgun

Get a book. ;-D


40 posted on 02/07/2023 1:45:08 PM PST by GingisK
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