[Billthedrill]

Classic story here - I had some old friends move from southern Kali to our little haven in northern Idaho. After a couple of years it became apparent that (1) they'd turned into screaming liberals; (2) the place was driving them nuts culturally and politically; and (3) they wanted more social services through sheer self-inflicted wounds. I had helped them move in, and I helped them move out...to Denver. For which I do apologize to native Coloradans.

I've heard from them several times since. Crime is an issue in their lives now - it wasn't before - and still they refuse to connect it with their cherished proggie politics. It isn't that they don't see it, it's that they won't. Nice people otherwise, but good riddance.

[MtnClimber]

The trick is going to be...how do you convince them to move to Venezuela. That should be their last chance opportunity to realize that their utopian dreams are backward.