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F-22 Effects First Air-to-Air Strike with Chinese Balloon Takedown
FR ^ | 2/5/2023 | me

Posted on 02/05/2023 7:16:54 PM PST by logi_cal869

Walk of shame...



TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: ccpballoon; joetatoedropsadeuce; topballoon
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To: Fungi

Do you have a cheaper proposal - with a 100% success rate?


61 posted on 02/05/2023 11:27:21 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: This_Dude


Also, the pilot can look through his visor and the missile travels where he’s looking”

Source? I don’t see that in the specs from here:

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104557/aim-9-sidewinder/


62 posted on 02/05/2023 11:34:34 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Badboo

If the Republicans had balls, they would each carry two helium filled party balloons into the FUp’d State of the Union and let a few go every time FUBiden told a lie. I apologize for the oxymoron in my leading phrase.

And McCarthy HAS to rip up the speech.


63 posted on 02/06/2023 12:19:59 AM PST by NavyShoe
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To: NavyShoe
And McCarthy HAS to rip up the speech.

I thought about that too, but can the republicans just get up and walk out right in the middle of it? What a spectacle that would be.

64 posted on 02/06/2023 12:39:24 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

Republicans walking out is not happening. If anything they will line up to kiss Biden’s ass. With the Pride and Joy of South Carolina, the one and only Lindsey Graham at the head of the line.


65 posted on 02/06/2023 12:43:19 AM PST by sport
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To: sport

Unfortunately, you are probably right. Too dang many RINOs out there.


66 posted on 02/06/2023 1:30:00 AM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: jerod
"So they sent a jet worth $125 million, to shoot down a $150 balloon"

Good thing the balloon didn't splash the F-22. You don't always get the results you expect with this administration, or even the results you'd like.
67 posted on 02/06/2023 2:38:05 AM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: logi_cal869

Shot down an unarmed balloon. There is probly a pink ribbon for your fruit salad for doing that.


68 posted on 02/06/2023 3:03:43 AM PST by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: logi_cal869

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69 posted on 02/06/2023 3:29:18 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: logi_cal869

70 posted on 02/06/2023 3:48:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: mad_as_he$$; This_Dude

AIM-9X can be targeted against an image

https://jalopnik.com/why-its-sad-that-the-f-22-just-fired-its-first-guided-a-1704889474

The US had its next generation Sidewinder, AIM-9X, and its Joint Helmet Mounted Cuing System, which was a visor-type system that adapted to standard fighter helmets using magnetic spacial tracking, while Europe had the IRIST-T, MICA, ASRAAM missiles and various Helmet Mounted Sights and more advanced Helmet Mounted Displays to integrate with them.

The AIM-9X differs from the last iterations of the original AIM-9 Sidewinder almost totally. For all intents and purposes, it’s a brand new missile that shares the older AIM-9’s rocket motor and warhead. It has an Imaging Infrared Seeker, which uses IR energy in the form of a picture, akin to a video camera, to home in on its target. Because the seeker uses an image instead of a simpler infrared source, it is much harder to confuse with decoys and countermeasures and can differentiate between different objects and aircraft. It can also be reprogrammed to deal with new countermeasures and to hit certain targets in certain areas. It also uses thrust vectoring instead of control fins to maneuver to its target, which greatly enhances its overall maneuverability. When employed with a Helmet Mounted Sight or display, the AIM-9X Block I can hit targets as much as 90 degrees of bore-sight and can lock onto targets at much farther ranges under more challenging conditions that its predecessor. Even without a HMS, the AIM-9X is a huge leap in capability and has a much wider angle bore-sight view than the AIM-9M it replaces. It is also much more maintenance friendly.


71 posted on 02/06/2023 3:58:10 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: logi_cal869

An air-to-air balloon kill.... More than 99% of fighter pilots have.


72 posted on 02/06/2023 5:00:46 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: PapaBear3625; The Dude

Thank you! Not your daddy’s AIM-9 any more!


73 posted on 02/06/2023 5:13:35 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: logi_cal869

Was there a reason we shot the payload instead of the balloon itself? One method destroys the evidence, the other just brings the balloon down. Also interesting it is taking two days for search vessels to get out there.


74 posted on 02/06/2023 5:15:37 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: logi_cal869

Yeah, but the F22 is so amazingly stealthy that the Chinese balloon didn’t even see it coming.


75 posted on 02/06/2023 5:22:20 AM PST by Pennsyltucky Boy (bitterly clinging to our constitutional rights in PA)
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To: Pennsyltucky Boy

It was a happy balloon (as opposed to ‘angry’).

In fact, consider this:

What if its purpose was to receive and isolate intercept radar frequencies?

Something tells me that the pilot didn’t approach the balloon in stealth mode - ahem - and that ccp generals were cheering when they got confirmation of the frequencies.


76 posted on 02/06/2023 5:29:15 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Apparently bullets are not very effective to take down the balloon. Seriously. One country tried to shoot down a similar balloon and it took one thousand rounds that barely worked.


77 posted on 02/06/2023 5:30:05 AM PST by cornfedcowboy ( )
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To: logi_cal869

Yep - would have been better to use a gun instead of a missile.


78 posted on 02/06/2023 5:36:29 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: logi_cal869

This is supposed to be a great achievement?


79 posted on 02/06/2023 5:38:34 AM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: Paladin2
...this guy is going to get some serious ribbing

If the missile had missed, the ribbing would have been merciless.

However, a kill is a kill.

Frank Luke, "Balloon Buster" in WWI, has an Air Force base named after him.


80 posted on 02/06/2023 5:47:39 AM PST by FtrPilot
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