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To: CPT Clay; GYPSY286; Squidpup; AFB-XYZ; thinden; The Klingon; meyer; Gritty; redryder_90; ...

Pinging the Clandestine list, a short twitter thread.

I forgot what “Mandela effect” was, so searched, it means this: “The Mandela Effect occurs when a large mass of people believes that an event occurred when it did not.”

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1622005592062660610.html

1) This line of thinking is EXACTLY what I’m trying to bring attention to.

This widespread Mandela Effect plagues both the Left and the Right.

Why is it that the US are absolved from even consideration that they might be involved in wrongdoing?

Because we won WW2?

Dersch@danieldersch
Replying to @WarClandestine
You think that the USA launched a biological attack on China and Russia. That’s delusional.

2) So even if some psychopaths were to gain control of the US government, we aren’t allowed to question them because of a war that ended 80 years ago?

We must assume Russia and China are wrong because of their past?

How about we just look at the evidence, like logical beings.

3) The US, Russia, China, every government/civilization on the planet; all of them have committed heinous atrocities at some point in their history.

This idea that the US are infallible, is insane.

The US doesn’t get to ignore allegations from Russia and China just because.

4) Russia did their best to bring these allegations formally on the highest diplomatic channel on earth via the UN.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?518615-1/un-security-council-meets-russian-claim-biolabs-ukraine
U.N. Security Council Meets Over Russian Claim of Biolabs in Ukraine
The U.N. Security Council met to discuss Russian claims of biological weapons research labs in Ukraine. Russian Ambassador to the U.N. Vassily Nebenzia outlined...*

Despite lots of interest for transparency from the other BRICS nations, the US and the West ignored Russia’s allegations.

5) The US and the West (NATO) have shown zero attempts at any diplomacy, and just turn up their nose at Russia, despite the substantial evidence and the reality of US funded biolabs in Ukraine.

All they do is cry “disinformation”, and refuse to over any transparency.

6) So this line of thinking that the US just gets to not follow the rules just because they are the US… it has to stop.

I’m not saying Russia and China are “good guys” I’m saying the US have given Russia and China A LOT of reasons to seek military escalation.

/END
Offer*** any transparency

[not sure what the statement after /END means...]

*CSPAN:
U.N. Security Council Meeting on Ukraine
The U.N. Security Council met to discuss Russian claims of biological weapons research labs in Ukraine. Russian Ambassador to the U.N. Vassily Nebenzia outlined what he said was evidence of these labs discovered by Russian soldiers. Ambassador Nebenzia claimed this research was being funded by the United States. The U.N. Under Secretary-General and High Representative for Disarmament Affairs Izumi Nakamitsu said the U.N. is, “not aware of any biological weapons program in Ukraine.” The U.S. and Ukrainian U.N. Ambassadors, Linda Thomas-Greenfield and Sergiy Syslytsya respectively, denied Russia’s allegations. Ambassador Thomas-Greenfield warned the Russian claim could be used as an excuse to use biological weapons against the Ukrainian people. Reminding the Council, “It is Russia that is the aggressor here.”


94 posted on 02/04/2023 7:20:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: little jeremiah; All

There is absolutely ZERO information on NORAD’s website, about the balloon intrusion. Funny... that-

https://www.norad.mil/

NORAD proudly proclaims their interceptions of Russian aircraft on their website.

Oct. 18, 2022
NORAD detects, tracks, identifies and intercepts Russian aircraft entering Air Defense Identification Zone

https://www.norad.mil/Newsroom/Press-Releases/Article/3192054/norad-detects-tracks-identifies-and-intercepts-russian-aircraft-entering-air-de/

Sept. 12, 2022
NORAD detects, tracks, and identifies Russian aircraft entering Air Defense Identification Zones

https://www.norad.mil/Newsroom/Press-Releases/Article/3155331/norad-detects-tracks-and-identifies-russian-aircraft-entering-air-defense-ident/


95 posted on 02/04/2023 7:23:22 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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