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To: Boogieman
But to describe something that John knew was not a miracle as being a miracle would clearly be deceptive.

If John witnessed an Apache helicopter firing missles from it's wing, would he describe it as a helicopter firing missiles off its wings, or would he use the best explanation he would have had for his time? An armored beast looking thing with the face of a man and the tail of a scorpion raining down fire, perhaps? If that were the case, would his description then be deceptive?

As I mentioned, I believe miracles will be performed. It's not that I don't believe that. And, if a demon can appear before someone as their dead granny, yeah, demons can perform miracles. It's the machinations behind those miracles that run with the tech narrative, be it performing miracles or marking a soul.

30 posted on 02/01/2023 3:50:47 PM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware

“If John witnessed an Apache helicopter firing missles from it’s wing, would he describe it as a helicopter firing missiles off its wings, or would he use the best explanation he would have had for his time?”

Irrelevant. He wouldn’t have described it as miraculous, that’s for certain. We’ve already covered this territory too.

“It’s the machinations behind those miracles that run with the tech narrative...”

Miracles by definition are supernatural, and technology is by definition not supernatural. So if the apostle described technology as a “miracle”, it’s deception.


40 posted on 02/02/2023 6:28:03 AM PST by Boogieman
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