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To: Boogieman
God’s point of view is eternal.

Correct, however, the verse you quoted, Revelations 13:14, was not God's direct words. They were the words of the Apostle John, describing the prophecy he had witnessed. If you break down the verse you posted: "by the means of those miracles which he had power to do"

The means of those miracles suggest some kind of mechanization behind the miracles, whether physical or mystical. The miracles deceived the people, but there was something behind the miracles that the beast had power to do.

Maybe I'm off my rocker, but I've read through a number of times and I keep coming back to that.

17 posted on 02/01/2023 1:41:10 PM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: dware
"They were the words of the Apostle John, describing the prophecy he had witnessed."

Yes, but I don't believe God would allow an apostle to mislead people in God's holy book, even if it was just based on the apostle's confusion.

"The means of those miracles suggest some kind of mechanization behind the miracles, whether physical or mystical."

No, I think it's clearly saying that the miracles themselves are the means of the deceiving, not saying anything about the means by which the miracles are accomplished.

"there was something behind the miracles"

Yes, there is the power of the Dragon (Satan), which is not a mechanical or technological power:

"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast..." Rev. 13:4

"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast..." Rev. 13:11-12

The power comes from Satan, first to the "Beast" and then to the "beast with two horns like a lamb" (the false prophet). If the power was just technological, God would probably have told us they got it from a university or laboratory, not from Satan, but then again, if it was just technological it wouldn't be worth mentioning. Priests in Egypt were making images that could move and talk 4,000 years ago with clever technological trickery.

20 posted on 02/01/2023 2:23:14 PM PST by Boogieman
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