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To: MtnClimber; Chad C. Mulligan; chiller; SecondAmendment; FamiliarFace
I had a great deal of interest in this, because I had investigated the possibility of getting involved in cleaning the voter rolls in my town. I even took part in a statewide video conference last winter (with local Republican Town Committees from all over the state) where, to my absolute dismay and disgust I found that the neglect and resistance of cleaning the voter rolls is not just largely laziness as I had thought, but is baked by law into the state statutes covering how people could be removed from the voter rolls.

And not just in my state. In nearly every state according to the people running the meeting the criteria for legally removing a voter from the rolls can take nearly 3-4 years to do so!

What that cemented in me was that these laws are in no way designed to ensure that people are disenfranchised, but are deliberately designed to result in voter rolls that contain ineligible or deceased people, and to require an olympian effort to remove just one person, never mind tens of thousands.

And it is done to enable fraud.

FROM THE LINKED ARTICLE:
In a Midwestern state this month, canvassers who used the RNC data for electioneering months ago — used the Fractal-cleaned lists — said, "In 22 years canvassing, we have never seen such accurate lists. The RNC lists were garbage."

Because Fractal told them the square footage of every single-family residence, they could determine which were phantom nests with 15 registered adults in an 800-square-foot home.

The Wisconsin team innovated in 2022 with the "root query."

The Fractal system found 1,250 people living at a single address — a college dorm. The Wisconsin team found that only 300 people can live there at any one time. Good find.

That was not enough for these guys. They had the Fractal team create the "root search" — thus digging into the address one layer deeper. Guess what! Not only were 1,250 people getting ballots at an address where only 300 can live, but 450 of those ballots went to a single dorm room!

What if that room number changes?

The Fractal system picks it up by snapshotting the voter rolls every month. RNC data — well, tough luck!

Thus, the UnDeliverable Ballot database knows where 900 fake ballots are going to be sent — even when they change the address!"

I fully get that this is baked in, and we are not going to be allowed, by either party (Including The Stupid Party) to change state laws, so...likely nothing is going to happen. But I feel compelled to keep trying to tell people, here and elsewhere, what is going on.

8 posted on 01/30/2023 6:10:13 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel
What I meant to say was:

"...What that cemented in me was that these laws are in no way designed to ensure that people are NOT disenfranchised, but are deliberately designed to result in voter rolls that contain ineligible or deceased people, and to require an olympian effort to remove just one person, never mind tens of thousands..."

10 posted on 01/30/2023 6:12:20 AM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: rlmorel

I have maintained that the reason the Republicans in Congress never said a darn thing about the cheating in 2020 is because they have been the recipients of winning cheated election counts too. They want to pretend that this is honest.

The fact is we are living in a dishonest society, and cheaters get away with cheating all over the place.

As an example, this is not a lot different from watching officials make bad calls that throw games. After the last few weeks of watching football games, and seeing gambling apps promoted during the commercial breaks, it is easy to put two and two together. Vegas is really determining the winners and the losers each week. It’s as plain as the nose on their faces. Yet, we watch and are miffed when we see bad calls, but the thing is we seem to say, yeah, that team won. We know in our heads it’s not right, but we let it go.

This election rolls problem is very real, and it seems, as you said, rlmorel, that all we can do is let as many people as we know in on the scam. Doubtful it will ever change. Somebody has to want to change the system. Will we get there? We must keep trying.


12 posted on 01/30/2023 6:30:04 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: rlmorel

We can have all the articles like this we want but until the local officials are held accountable for their actions, or in this case lack of action, nothing will change. Everyone complains about mail in ballots, voter roll cleanup. But again it is the state level officials that have to change anything.

The question is this...what exactly can we do to ensure these issues are addressed at the state /local level? As many of the officials that could effect change are not elected it seems to be an uphill battle to get them to pay attentions and actually do something.

Any concrete ideas anyone would care to share...???


13 posted on 01/30/2023 6:32:15 AM PST by oldguy1776
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for that very informative post.

Now we can see why Lindell was never going to become the RNC chair.

The Kabuki theater that is congress must be protected at all costs.....


18 posted on 01/30/2023 6:40:23 AM PST by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: rlmorel
> I fully get that this is baked in, and we are not going to be allowed, by either party ... But I feel compelled to keep trying to tell people, here and elsewhere, what is going on.

You are doing the right thing, no matter how painful the truth is.

But this should not be a surprise to any American, the most "disruptive" thing the Founders did was to admit politicians are corrupt by nature, and they designed a decentralized system of government to account for this.

20 posted on 01/30/2023 6:42:43 AM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: rlmorel

Valentine recounted how some election officials conceded, promised to fix, but later reneged (or weren’t allowed as you explain).

Conversely, Wisconsin—to name one—has had successes.

This won’t be easy. Greater visibility....tuckercarlson... will help. Mike Lindell has been a strong proponent and likely the reason for his RNC bid, but do party leaders want voter roles cleaned.

Ds—no. Rs-—maybe. In the meantime, concentrate on “addresses” not “ballots”, and clearly “ballots/mail-in votes” not “election day votes”....where legal.


25 posted on 01/30/2023 7:11:44 AM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: rlmorel

I am of the same mind. Corrupt voter registration rolls are loved by the Demon-RATS and by the Republic-RATS.

One thing FReepers can do is to keep exposing Dirty Voter Registration Rolls, as FReepers have been exposing Sudden Deaths.


27 posted on 01/30/2023 7:42:44 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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