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It seems a bit counterintuitive that the more invasive procedure is the best choice.
1 posted on 01/25/2023 8:38:00 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 01/25/2023 8:38:37 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Yet no mention of Dr Esselstyn or Dr Ornish and their revolutionary plant-based dietary programs for reversing heart disease. It seems medicine follows the easy big bucks .


5 posted on 01/25/2023 11:54:00 PM PST by David Moser
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100,000 patients?
But there is no control population?
My understanding based on recent studies is that medical intervention, like drugs (and intermittent fasting) results in a better overall mortality.
Seems like this study is about which of the two approaches mentioned is less bad.
Apparently something like Dean Ornish program is beneficial. In fact, there is strong evidence that decrease in consumption of sugar, and carbohydrates along with intermittent fasting (one meal a day) gives very good results for very little cost.
Also, note that meat is not the enemy. But humans don’t seem to need a lot of it every day. So the plant-based thing is over-rated. (And I would avoid most vegetable burgers as they have high carbohydrates. Correct me if that is wrong?)


7 posted on 01/26/2023 7:19:06 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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My older brother had five heart stents even having one replaced since it was an older technology without the anti coagulates. He recently had cardiac by pass surgery. While his stents apparently worked well at first, bypass was eventually needed.


8 posted on 01/26/2023 7:21:30 AM PST by The Great RJ
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I had an artificial mitral valve installed in 1990. Then put on warfarin with no problems.

In 2006, I began to have heart pains and x rays showed a blocked artery. A stent was installed and my warfarin dosage was upped.

I still had one little pain and another x ray showed a small artery plugged. they said not to mess with it as it would soon stretch out and be OK.

Have had no problems since.

I always felt forced exercises from Jr high school till 1990 was the cause of my problems. It was.


9 posted on 01/26/2023 7:41:52 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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