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To: caww

When someone asks for the source of such a bizarre claim about the military, the proper response is to share your source, not launch into personal attacks.


75 posted on 01/21/2023 5:57:05 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

We all know war is uncertain and reliable information is sparse, so no one knows how the war in Ukraine will play out. Nor can any of us be completely certain what the optimal course of action is.

What I find especially striking is how liberal interventionists, unrepentant neoconservatives, and a handful of progressives who are all-in for Ukraine seem to have no doubts whatsoever about the origins of the conflict... For them, Putin is solely and totally responsible for the war.....

....The only outcome in their view is a complete Ukrainian victory, with a regime change in Moscow, the imposition of reparations to finance Ukrainian reconstruction, and war crimes trials for Putin and his associates.....This same group has also been extraordinarily critical of those who believe responsibility for the war is not confined to Russia’s president.

If you have the temerity to suggest that NATO enlargement (and the policies related to it) helped pave the road to war, if you believe the most likely outcome is a negotiated settlement and that getting there sooner rather than later would be desirable, you’re almost certain to be denounced as a pro-Putin stooge, an appeaser, an isolationist, or worse....If someone is not all-in for Ukraine, then they must be siding with Putin.


80 posted on 01/21/2023 6:17:10 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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