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To: ifinnegan
This isn’t science.

It is mostly skewed by our own fiction writers at that.

The assumption that we can communicate on any sort of common level is baffling. We have many languages and methods of transmitting them here on earth where the vast majority of inhabitants don't understand each other.

How would we pretend to understand a communications from a civilization where we have no common references? We are conditioned to believe that those alien cultures are vastly more intelligent and they would initiate communications with us.

It only happens in the movies.

35 posted on 01/17/2023 11:10:28 AM PST by pfflier
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To: pfflier

Yes. Science fiction.

Your points are good.

It’s not a non-interesting topic. I have ideas how to do a base communication using physical principles that would be common to all life. It’s science fiction, though. Based on scientific knowledge.


42 posted on 01/17/2023 11:57:36 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: pfflier

How would we pretend to understand a communications from a civilization where we have no common references?

Mathematics, geometry & music are all ways to communicate without language, as is 1s and zeros.


51 posted on 01/17/2023 12:44:58 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: pfflier
where we have no common references

The chemical elements, the laws of physics, mathematics, geometry are universal constants and therefore a common reference. Whether that's enough to enable meaningful communication is a separate question ... but we absolutely do have common references.

We are conditioned to believe that those alien cultures are vastly more intelligent

"We"? Who's "we", Kemosabe? Any regular reader of science-fiction will have encountered stories with aliens ranging from barely smarter than a dog to super-geniuses, and ranging from like us enough to be nearly carbon-copies to so utterly different as to be completely incomprehensible.

53 posted on 01/17/2023 12:50:33 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: pfflier

They would be able to learn our language than we would be able to learn their language.


55 posted on 01/17/2023 1:38:18 PM PST by Theophilous Meatyard III
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