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Salt restriction does not lower blood pressure variability
Medical Xpress / HealthDay / Journal of the American Heart Association ^ | Jan. 12, 2023 | Tan Lai Zhou et al

Posted on 01/15/2023 9:38:55 PM PST by ConservativeMind

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Salt restriction doesn’t seem to help change the blood pressures changes we have through the day.
1 posted on 01/15/2023 9:38:55 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 01/15/2023 9:40:44 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Salt restrictions can kill you!
https://smile.amazon.com/Salt-Fix-Experts-Wrong-Eating-ebook/dp/B01GBAJR9C


3 posted on 01/15/2023 9:45:58 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: ConservativeMind

4 posted on 01/15/2023 9:51:15 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: ConservativeMind
said, "Salt restriction doesn’t seem to help change the blood pressures changes"

Yes, but salt is what our brains use to open the synapse of our brain.
What is the objective?
5 posted on 01/15/2023 10:01:30 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Deficient Iodine found in table salt might be causing thyroid enlargement in their children. This causes all kinds of problems including allergies.


6 posted on 01/15/2023 10:08:54 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Does using iodized salt alleviate that problem?


7 posted on 01/15/2023 10:15:55 PM PST by Laslo Fripp (Does anybody proofread anymore?)
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To: ConservativeMind

This one is near and dear to me.


8 posted on 01/15/2023 10:26:45 PM PST by rdl6989 ( )
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To: ConservativeMind

This one goes back and forth.

- Salt causes high blood pressure
- Salt doesn’t cause high blood pressure
- Salt causes higher blood pressure if you have high blood pressure issues.

etc..

Somewhere the truth lives.


9 posted on 01/15/2023 10:36:32 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: ConservativeMind

“Salt restriction doesn’t seem to help change the blood pressures changes we have through the day.”

Yep, Dr. Berry has been quite clear on this. And, in fact, there are only 2 ways to really endanger yourself with salt:

1) Force-feed it to yourself by using far more than needed to make food taste good.
2) Eliminate it to the level that is currently recommended, or less.

Eating the amount needed to make food taste good (roughly two to three times the recommended amount) pretty much gives us the ideal level of salt...which makes sense or humans wouldn’t be alive today as all of these ‘medical experts’ telling us to not eat salt were not around for the first 99.99% of human history.


10 posted on 01/15/2023 10:42:02 PM PST by BobL
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To: Laslo Fripp
"Does using iodized salt alleviate that problem?"
prevents that problem.
Melatonin is the food to rebuild cells (said in short)
11 posted on 01/15/2023 11:04:10 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Yes, but salt is what our brains use to open the synapse of our brain.

It's all about the dosage. Many substances that are essential to life can, nonetheless, impair health or even prove fatal if ingested in excessive quantities.

What is the objective?

Unclear what you are asking. Are you asking: By what mechanism could reducing sodium intake possibly reduce blood pressure?

Regards,

12 posted on 01/15/2023 11:21:00 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Idk, reducing salt really helps lower my blood pressure. I’m not religious about it though.


13 posted on 01/15/2023 11:24:30 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare)
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"ingested in excessive quantities"
That is true with all substance. Water will kill you. it's a matter of dosage.

The concept of salt related the mechanism of blood pressure is related to vasoconstriction. Which is mostly related to anxieties. Keep your adrenochrome in check you will do far more good.
14 posted on 01/15/2023 11:49:52 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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That is true with all substance. Water will kill you. it's a matter of dosage.

You needn't school me on this. You are simply repeating what I wrote.

Or are you merely attempting to indicate assent? And repeating this for the benefit of other readers?

Keep your adrenochrome in check you will do far more good.

I'm afraid that most casual readers will not find that advice very helpful. Instead, they need simple, concrete advice like, "Put down the salt shaker!" which they can easily understand and follow (not that that would be the correct advice - I'm only using it as an example).

Regards,

15 posted on 01/15/2023 11:57:10 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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lower salt reduces nitric oxide production and does relax the blood vessels some related to normal uses of salt intake. Though it's insignificant compared to anxieties which creates tension.

Sorry though you use black lettering suggesting I didn't understand dosage. Yes of course salt can kill you if you take to much.
16 posted on 01/16/2023 12:03:17 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Sorry though you use black lettering suggesting I didn't understand dosage.

I feel that my use of boldface was appropriate.

"It's all about the dosage. Many substances that are essential to life can, nonetheless, impair health or even prove fatal if ingested in excessive quantities."

Though, you're right: We posters here often respond to other posters with whom we are actually in agreement, and adopt a lecturing or condescending tone which can easily seem directed at the wrong person.

I suppose that I am as guilty of that as others.

Sorry, too!

Regards,

17 posted on 01/16/2023 12:08:19 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ConservativeMind

SAlt restriction may not lower blood pressure, but too much salt ( sodium ) can spike it. Been monitoring my BP daily after stroke. Systolic was averaging about 110 for 2 weeks. One night it jumped to 160. Turns out it was BBQ sauce that did it. Didn’t realize how much sodium is in that and ketchup. 2 teaspoons contained 300mg. I must have had at least 1800mg.


18 posted on 01/16/2023 1:24:20 AM PST by TheCipher ( RINO politicians in DC are the only reptiles in the world with no backbone)
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To: ConservativeMind

I know this for myself having tried cutting back sodium intake dramatically for no effect. They have been telling us for decades to reduce salt intake to reduce blood pressure while knowing that is effective in a small percentage of cases. They argue that that small percentage who see an improvement is a reason to give everyone the same instructions. Insanity.

The real cause of high blood pressure seems to be insulin resistance for most people. The way to fix that is to go to a low carb diet with intermittent fasting. Worked fantastic for me.

Doctors seem to think a low carb diet with intermittent fasting is not possible or some kind of heroic act of will power. You know what takes heroic will power? Getting up from a meal still hungry because you are counting calories trying to lose weight. I eat until full when I eat, I just restrict the times I eat, don’t eat carbs and make sure I get a lot of healthy natural fat (no vegetable oils except EVOO).


19 posted on 01/16/2023 2:41:14 AM PST by Flying Circus
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I would say that our bodies do an excellent job regulating salt. If our ancestors didn’t evolve to tolerate wide variations in salt intake, they would not have made it.

Outside of a small percentage of the population, salt restriction has no effect on blood pressure. This is well known in the literature, but doctors keep telling everyone to restrict salt. It is insanity.


20 posted on 01/16/2023 2:47:02 AM PST by Flying Circus
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