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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I believe I heard Doctor Marc Siegel on Laura Ingraham’s show last week saying that the problems were with the Pfizer shot, not the Moderna or the J&J, or did I misunderstand him?


12 posted on 01/15/2023 3:53:29 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: gloryblaze
Don't know what Dr. Siegel says, but even though there is no reason to believe the content of this article given the source, let's for the sake of argument take it at face value and say it is true. This is about the sinovac vaccine, so if the posters and promoters of this article want us to believe it, that blows their conspiracies about mRNA out of the water. And they didn't even notice, nor would do they even get why. They just see "vaccine" and go for the narrative hook, line, and sinker.

That's what happens when you have zero knowledge base about what you are talking about and just want to go with narratives and not be willing to even learn anything. They've never even bothered to learn was mRNA is, what a virus is, how they reproduce, etc. They have no clue, even after all of this time.

15 posted on 01/15/2023 4:02:15 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: gloryblaze

Marc Siegel was talking about Pfizer. McCullough’s Chinese vaccine story isn’t connected to it.

The Pfizer issue is about ischemic stroke risk in patients over 65. If it’s the same study that I read they found 67 incidents per 10,000 injections versus an expected rate of 49 per 10,000.

The issue showed up with the updated bivalent Pfizer vaccine that includes Omicron. The CDC has a “near real time” monitoring system that alerts them to potential problems.

This is what their news release says about it:

This preliminary signal has not been identified with the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent. There also may be other confounding factors contributing to the signal identified in the VSD that merit further investigation. Furthermore, it is important to note that, to date, no other safety systems have shown a similar signal and multiple subsequent analyses have not validated this signal:

A large study of updated (bivalent) vaccines (from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) using the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services database revealed no increased risk of ischemic stroke

A preliminary study using the Veterans Affairs database did not indicate an increased risk of ischemic stroke following an updated (bivalent) vaccine

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) managed by CDC and FDA has not seen an increase in reporting of ischemic strokes following the updated (bivalent) vaccine
Pfizer-BioNTech’s global safety database has not indicated a signal for ischemic stroke with the updated (bivalent) vaccine

Other countries have not observed an increased risk for ischemic stroke with updated (bivalent) vaccines

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/bivalent-boosters.html


46 posted on 01/15/2023 11:39:19 PM PST by Pelham (#NeverKevin)
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