Posted on 01/15/2023 6:01:18 AM PST by fluorescence
PC sales drop. How about laptops and tablets?
PCs last a long time now , meaning running newer software
Why buy new phone or pc when the current ones work? I believe people has finally tired of the upgrade yearly cycle.
I would buy a new one if
1) I can get my cars fixed and get back to work
2) Still get one with Windows 7. May have to go refurbished.
So it wouldn’t be new lol
Government upgrades will probably provide a floor for the big 3 who also derive income from support.
What about that market segment?
At some point the market gets saturated. I personally have four laptops in my home all with different purposes. Since they are working fine and I don’t change anything they seem to last for a long time. When one does give up the ghost I will buy a replacement but as long as they do what I want done I don’t see any reason to buy a computer.
I agree. For most of us doing basic browsing and office programs, there’s little need of more performance. Hard drives were always a reliability issue but with SSDs that’s fixed too.
What percent of people do you think that is?
My old rule was three years and then upgrade. However, now I am changing that rule to FOUR years (and possibly 5 for the cell phone if the batteries hold up.) Why upgrade if the computer (and phone) are still doing the jobs you need them to do?
Also for some absurd reason, T-Mobile lowered the trade-in values of their cell phones. I got $300 trade-in value for each of the two Samsung Galaxy S7 phones we traded in back in 2020. Now our Samsung Galaxy 2020 Cell phones will only get $190 each on the trade-in.
Yet the PC manufacturers pushed for communism. They must not like making money. I hope that when this is all over investors retail control and purge most of the C-suite for the grifting, venal leftists that they are.
As pre-built computer sales continue to plummet, prices have to drop. That's also true for components though I suspect the price cuts for components will be smaller since the highest profits are in pre-built PCs. I build my own and have for more than 30 years now. You're exactly correct that with a little research and basic assembly knowledge, it's actually quite easy to build a better computer yourself, cheaper than purchasing a mass-produced pre-built one. They last longer too.
Why spend $1,000's for no real improvement unless you are running heavy duty programs. Day to day programs run just fine on old Laptops.
I can buy very nice Lenovo X1's and Mac Books for a few hundred dollars which are perfect for my personal and business usage.
Maybe they could lower prices... have a sale or two.
My HP laptop has been running without a hitch since 2014-15, can’t recall exactly ... its memory is better than mine.
Nary a Mac I’ve had lasted that near that long and they cost 2-3x as much.
No Mac no more.
My 2012 Mac run just fine. 10 years and use it 1 to 6 hours a day. Never shut it down.
“My old rule was three years and then upgrade.”
I built my PC in 2014. Tried to load TurboTax but not compatible with Win 8.1. Fortunately MS has free upgrade so I am all set.
Wow, that’s really good to hear. I used to be a Mac guy, the newest I ever had was a G5, I think, from 2003. I’m long retired now so don’t really need the horsepower anymore.
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