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To: RoosterRedux
Trump isn't responsible here.

Sorry, but if Hillary was POTUS, you would be the loudest voice saying that she knew and went along with it.

Your excuse for Trump was that he was stupid. Not a good excuse.

He kept Fauci there and he still supports the vaccines today despite all we know.

So spare us the political spin to protect Trump. I like him, but he effed this up because of political arrogance, just as I originally posted. It is what led the Dems to be lockdown/masking monsters....political arrogance.

6 posted on 01/15/2023 3:37:27 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It wasn’t political arrogance on Pres Trump’s part. It was lack of accurate information with which he would have needed in order to make informed decisions. He’s not a doctor or a scientist. It also wasn’t political arrogance on the part of the Democrats. It was ruthlessness, greed and pure evil.


9 posted on 01/15/2023 4:43:48 AM PST by vivenne
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To: Erik Latranyi

Well, let us not forget about liability.


10 posted on 01/15/2023 4:46:41 AM PST by exnavy (Grow your faith, and have the courage to use it.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
He kept Fauci there and he still supports the vaccines today despite all we know.

So spare us the political spin to protect Trump. I like him, but he effed this up because of political arrogance, just as I originally posted. It is what led the Dems to be lockdown/masking monsters....political arrogance.

Exactly correct. Moreover, Trump did have advisors in the WH telling him to go in another direction. But Trump decided to throw in with Fauci, Birx, et al., to the exclusion of those who were giving him sound advice. Why? Because Trump, narcissistic @ss that he was/is, wanted to be seen as the savior in the midst of the situation -- i.e., pushing his moronic "Operation Warp Speed" -- thereby playing right into the hands of those who, to put it mildly, do not (and never did) have the best interests of the American people at heart.

In this matter, Trump was (and, as far as I can tell, still is) an arrogant fool.

14 posted on 01/15/2023 5:53:48 AM PST by DSH
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To: Erik Latranyi

We’re you aware of the threat Derp State posed before 2019?

And Trump NEVER ordered a mandate.

For certain elderly, especially those in a residential care setting, a CoupFlu vaxx might make sense.

Ultimately it should have been left to individuals once provided with informed consent.

But that’s not what Deep State did.

As for Trump, he’s not God.

He’s human. He’s fallible.

Just like the rest of it.

But you know what I love best about the guy?

He learns from his mistakes.

Why do you think he scares the **** out of Deep State?

Trump has my faith and my vote.

The man has earned them.


15 posted on 01/15/2023 5:59:58 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

You do know Pence was fully in charge of all COVID stuff, right?


17 posted on 01/15/2023 6:04:01 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
So spare us the political spin to protect Trump. I like him, but he effed this up because of political arrogance, just as I originally posted.

President Trump streamlined the approval process and supported development of a vaccine against COVID. It is not political arrogance. He never called for the vaccines to be mandated and instead said the direct opposite: That people should be free to choose if they want to use it.

It was your friend Joe Biden that mandated the vaccine. He promised that he had a plan to stop COVID during the campaign and, despite the superhuman efforts of President Trump, Joe Biden declared President Trump did not have a plan.

When Joe took over and COVID deaths were tracking just as high in the early months of his administration HE ARROGANTLY mandated the vaccines.

The reality is the vaccines were barely made available during President Trump's administration. The first doses came out in the final 3 weeks (or there about) of his Term.

As far a Fauci is concerned he was considered the top infectious disease specialist at the NIH. Who else would the president turn to? Once he found out what a disaster he was he tried to push him aside with the guy from Stanford. But the press trashed that top doctor as a quack.

20 posted on 01/15/2023 6:29:43 AM PST by stig
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To: Erik Latranyi
Sorry, but if Hillary was POTUS, you would be the loudest voice saying that she knew and went along with it.

And you know that how? How would I be the loudest voice?

Damn presumptuous considering you don't even know me.

21 posted on 01/15/2023 6:48:24 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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