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To: DrGunsforHands

Steve Jobs was a moron. He treated his PC with “twigs and berries.”

He could have had surgery, and it would have increased his chances by a lot. Instead he wasted a lot of time until it was beyond help.


3 posted on 01/13/2023 1:19:12 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

I see the problem, “twigs & berries”

According to my Far Side Medical Guide it should have been “Grubs and Berries”


5 posted on 01/13/2023 1:22:46 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Vermont Lt

I had a work associate whose wife was diagnosed with breast cancer, and she decided to go with the “twigs and berries” approach as well - macrobiotic diet, etc. A year or so later she died, leaving him with two young sons to raise. Despite his grief, there was a distinct undercurrent of anger at the choices she had made.


8 posted on 01/13/2023 1:28:43 PM PST by LizzieD
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To: Vermont Lt

“Steve Jobs was a moron. He treated his PC with “twigs and berries. He could have had surgery, and it would have increased his chances by a lot. Instead he wasted a lot of time until it was beyond help.”

I agree. IMO at the heart of it was stubborn arrogance. He thought he knew better than doctors.

“A man has got to know his limitations ...”


12 posted on 01/13/2023 2:05:44 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Vermont Lt
Steve Jobs was a moron. He treated his PC with “twigs and berries.” He could have had surgery, and it would have increased his chances by a lot. Instead he wasted a lot of time until it was beyond help.

Steve Jobs was a brilliant guy in business who made idiotic medical decisions. It's tempting to call people morons - but the reality is that one of our problems as a society is that we assume that someone who is whip smart in one field has transferable skills. Not necessarily! In fact, that's incredibly rare!

14 posted on 01/13/2023 2:14:21 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Vermont Lt

Did you know Steve?

actually I know you did not.


17 posted on 01/13/2023 2:37:02 PM PST by algore
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To: Vermont Lt; DrGunsforHands; Bigbrown; Alter Kaker; algore; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; ...
Steve Jobs was a moron. He treated his PC with “twigs and berries.” He could have had surgery, and it would have increased his chances by a lot. Instead he wasted a lot of time until it was beyond help.

Yes.

According to Steve Jobs’ biographer, Walter Isaacson, the Apple mastermind eventually came to regret the decision he had made years earlier to reject potentially life-saving surgery in favor of alternative treatments like acupuncture, dietary supplements and juices. Though he ultimately embraced the surgery and sought out cutting-edge experimental methods, they were not enough to save him. Jobs’ cancer had been discovered by chance during a CT scan in 2003 to look for kidney stones, during which doctors saw a "shadow” on his pancreas. Isaacson told CBS’ 60 Minutes last night that while the news was not good, the upside was that the form of pancreatic cancer from which Jobs suffered (a neuroendocrine islet tumor) was one of the 5% or so that are slow growing and most likely to be cured. But Jobs refused surgery after diagnosis and for nine months after, favoring instead dietary treatments and other alternative methods. - https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-cancer-treatment-regrets/?sh=43272f407d2e

My dad, who did not smoke or drink but breathed in plenty of smoke as a expert welder for over 35 years, died of PC. It is hard to diagnose early and by the time he was then it was too late. But he did not suffer much.

As for Robbie Knievel, i guess he had it for a while. His dad lived longer, dying in Clearwater, Florida, on November 30, 2007, aged 69, after suffering from diabetes and idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis for many years.

However, by the grace of God (no understatement) "Evel" made his greatest "jump" when he sincerely gave His sins and life to Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us. His honest testimony of it (video) in Robert Schuller Crystal Cathedral )of all places) is very likely the most gospel that congregation ever heard. And which I wish everyone would. Evel reiterated the story of his conversion in other places as well before his passing from this world and into glory. Thanks be to God.

22 posted on 01/13/2023 5:07:02 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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