Update from Ukraine | Big Drama in Soledar Ukrainian Soldiers hold on

This thread itself is an example. Soledar has been captured and is now occupied by Russians and the whole world knows it, other than for people who get their info from 'Mom' here.....

Some number of Americans are going to think ukraine is winning this conflict up to the day it all collapses just as there were Japanese people who thought Japan was winning up to the day of the surrender on the Missouri.

One of the most enduring attacks against conservatives today is the Leftist belief that those of us who support Trump are as EVIL as he is. Even if they have to twist his words and lie to “prove” that he is evil.

Therefore, those who support him must be not only opposed but silenced from all political discourse and perhaps even punished.

You are asking for the SAME thing as they.

Free speech is too important to be thrown away by people like you and them.

There’s no way that support for Ukraine in itself is evil. Many people recognize that Russia today is still a dictatorship as it was in the Soviet days. Others believe Ukraine is totally corrupt and shouldn’t be propped up. I believed both statements to be true.

Russia should stop making war on Ukraine. This war is killing too many Ukrainians AND Russian men to no good end. The tactics of the Russians do not reflect the demographic catastrophe they have looming up before them.

Statistically, 1 child per family since the early 1990s means today’s young men’s deaths in frontal assault battles will be end of the line for thousands of ancient Russian lineages.

This war and part of the world is VERY complex. You have your opinion locked down, but others disagree or might see much more nuance.

State YOUR case, but don’t try to stop others from advocating their own thoughts.

I said it to you before:

Obviously, the Ukraine war is an important topic to many FReepers. There will be both pro-Ukraine and pro-Russia posting and threads quite often. We don’t need to litter these up with garbage language and personal attacks.

Soledar has been captured and is now occupied by Russians and the whole world knows it, other than for people who get their info from 'Mom' here.....

Has it? That's not what Putin's press secretary said:

According to Russian official TV, Russian forces had achieved “positive dynamics in advancing” in Soledar, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Wednesday, stopping short of declaring its capture. “Let’s not rush, and wait for official statements,” he said.

Only question I have to you: is Peskov lying?

"Therefore, those who support him must be not only opposed but silenced from all political discourse and perhaps even punished.

You are asking for the SAME thing as they.

Free speech is too important to be thrown away by people like you and them......"

YOU are the one who was sitting here two days ago begging Jim Robinson to ban ME from FR..... And YOU are accusing ME of fascist tendencies????

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Dude, you were personally attacking another FReeper. I want that to STOP, on ALL sides.

What did I initially say to you? Oh, yeah, I asked why not post an intelligent argument instead of jumping on with a bunch of nasty comments about someone being a Nazi.

I didn’t “beg” Jim to do anything to you EXCEPT to show him what is going on.

But I tell you what, people on this site are getting way too nasty to each other and we all need to take it down a peg or two.

Now, if Jim says we will no longer support people promoting Ukraine or Russia, it’s his site.... But he at LEAST expects us to behave as adults.

Stop acting like a child that didn’t get his way.

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