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To: grundle

“...defines the upper middle class as any household earning $100,000 to $350,000 for a family of three...”

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They say that they adjust this for inflation, but I don’t think they are comparing actual costs versus standard of living. There is no way a family of three is going to have an upper-middle class house and lifestyle without going deeply into debt for 100k/year


5 posted on 01/09/2023 8:59:00 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: z3n

I think the cost of housing has increased more than the general rate of inflation since 1979.

So that would definitely impact a middle-class lifestyle, as it relates to home ownership or the type of home that people live in.


7 posted on 01/09/2023 9:06:02 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: z3n

“They say that they adjust this for inflation, but I don’t think they are comparing actual costs versus standard of living. There is no way a family of three is going to have an upper-middle class house and lifestyle without going deeply into debt for 100k/year”

That’s true if you live in San Francisco or similar places but most people live where the cost of living is much less.

Some folks are just so determined that everything be bad that’s all they can see. If things are so bad how did we go from 25% of all homes being free and clear of debt to 37%? That’s an amazing number Also, most homeowners that have mortgages are sitting on super-low rates right now.


8 posted on 01/09/2023 9:11:01 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: z3n
A family of three...$350,000...middle class? In most parts of the country that would be Upper Class to me. Not in Westchester County,Fairfax County or Santa Clara County...but just about everywhere else.
9 posted on 01/09/2023 9:12:01 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: z3n

And a lot depends on where you live. 100K for a family in some areas would be poverty, other areas they could live alright.


27 posted on 01/09/2023 9:56:22 AM PST by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: z3n
There is no way a family of three is going to have an upper-middle class house and lifestyle without going deeply into debt for 100k/year

Thsts because they are using “class” as interchangeable in meaning with income level. In fact the two terms are connected but not the same. Social class is a matter of tastes, values, goals, educational level, communication style, experiences, etc. I know people who are unquestionably upper class who have become poor, and still live with dignity, as they learned to do in childhood. And we all know people who are quite rich but are truly lower class in their tastes and behavior. If you live in the hood and you win the lottery you do not suddenly become upper class, just upper. Income.

48 posted on 01/09/2023 2:04:05 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare)
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