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Police: St. Louis Co. woman tracked stolen car, killed two men
Fox 2 ^ | 23 Dec 2022 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/24/2022 6:43:51 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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To: DUMBGRUNT

I wish I was on her jury. She would walk.


21 posted on 12/24/2022 6:58:47 AM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Demesha, I wish someone who thinks like me is assigned to your jury. This sounds like it could be a RIGHTEOUS JURY NULLIFICATION case.


22 posted on 12/24/2022 7:01:02 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MA)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Another example of why American’s need the Second Amendment. Especially in these days when politicians are working so hard to push crime rates high by keeping the criminals on the streets.


23 posted on 12/24/2022 7:02:42 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Amerika! The whole world is watching and laughing their asses off. )
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To: null and void

But then, there would be civil suits against her,as she was convicted of a crime. She wouldn’t be able to offer a defense.....


24 posted on 12/24/2022 7:03:04 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Citizens have the same right to stop crime against their own property and families as police do.


25 posted on 12/24/2022 7:03:27 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: rlmorel

There is no “going to”. We are already there in our society. I for one, think if one steals a car, it warrants a death sentence. You can tell me I am wrong but I will retort that was the exact rule which was put in place to create the safe and free society we enjoyed for so long in the US.


26 posted on 12/24/2022 7:04:01 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: I want the USA back

“I don’t see any reason why she should be charged with a crime”

I get what your saying about doing a public service but that doesn’t make it lawful.

It really depends on state law......I imagine it’s unlawful to pursue a criminal when not in fear for your life.

I figure the law will say she shoulda called the cops when she knew where her car was instead of taking the law into her own hands..

Now if she’d have shot them WHILE they were attempting to steal her car that would I imagine be more in line with a fear for life or bodily harm situation.

However that’s more in line with Florida law so like I said, depends on the state law.


27 posted on 12/24/2022 7:04:09 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: ConservativeMind
If someone is stealing your property, you should be able to kill them. In some states, you can, and not even worry about any follow up lawsuits.

In Texas you can. However, I would not unless my life or loved ones were in danger. At night this is a different subject. I would not know if you are armed or not. Thus, I would "try" to avoid confrontation. If a confrontation is not avoidable, "Say hello to Glock 17 40 caliber, tactical light and laser." I am proficient with it.

28 posted on 12/24/2022 7:05:14 AM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
She just did a job the Cops are no longer willing to do.

Sounds like the perps got their just desert.

29 posted on 12/24/2022 7:06:13 AM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: rlmorel

—”They are going to force the law-abiding citizens of this country into vigilante justice, may they reap what they sow.”

A Gresham’s law of crime; bad drives out good.

If the public is prepared to accept and circulate bad, and if the total population, including, both good and bad, exceeds the actual good, public demand for better weapons will increase...


30 posted on 12/24/2022 7:07:52 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Jolla
Coleman opened fire and sparked the shootout,

The guys that stole the car and came out with guns started the shootout, she just shot first, maybe.

More to the point, in St. Louis County she is being charged becasue se brought a gun to a gun fight. Her real crime, in the eyes of the authoritarians there is that she violated the state's monopoly on the use of violence.

31 posted on 12/24/2022 7:08:58 AM PST by Turbo Pig ('To close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: cpdiii

Where did you find a Glock 17 in 40 caliber?


32 posted on 12/24/2022 7:09:23 AM PST by real saxophonist (Hoplophobia will never be in the DSM, because the DSM is written by hoplophobes.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Citizens have the same right to stop crime against their own property and families as police do”

To a certain extent......but it has limits.

There’s a fine line between that and vigilanteism.


33 posted on 12/24/2022 7:09:25 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Getready

Hmmmm. Fair point? Anyone else know a way to prevent this?


34 posted on 12/24/2022 7:09:29 AM PST by null and void (It’s not far-right to prevent mass starvation. It’s far-left to cause mass starvation.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If law enforcement had shot these guys for pulling a gun on them, there would be no charges. How is it different because an ordinary citizen made the stop? It shouldn’t be. She had every right to stop a crime in progress and her life was threatened in the process. LE and prosecutors absolutely hate it when ordinary citizens enforce laws because they can’t or won’t.


35 posted on 12/24/2022 7:09:49 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Turbo Pig

Fortunately, she is black. The jury will be sympathetic.


36 posted on 12/24/2022 7:10:30 AM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Solution to “cash free bail”....


37 posted on 12/24/2022 7:15:00 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: Telepathic Intruder

But the commie-crats don’t believe you should own anything, and the thieves took it because you probably stole it from someone else by oppressing them. They actually ‘think’ (aka feels) that way.


38 posted on 12/24/2022 7:17:21 AM PST by curious7
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Regrettably the system is rigged. Killing criminals means less money for the system. Less money for the system means problems are being solved and lawyers, judges, support staff, law enforcement people and staff go hungry. Therefore killing criminals means people aren’t working. Vicious circle …..


39 posted on 12/24/2022 7:19:41 AM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: V_TWIN
"There's a fine line between that and vigilanteism."

When the law is not enforced by the designated authorities vigilantism is what follows.

40 posted on 12/24/2022 7:24:49 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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