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UCSF apologizes for prisoner experiments where doctors injected pesticides into inmates' veins
ABCNEWS ^ | December 22, 2022 | AP

Posted on 12/22/2022 3:50:11 PM PST by artichokegrower

SAN FRANCISCO -- A prominent California medical school has apologized for conducting dozens of unethical medical experiments on at least 2,600 incarcerated men in the 1960s and 1970s, including putting pesticides and herbicides on the men's skin and injecting it into their veins.

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To: Freedom4US
You're right. This country, among others like England, France and Russia paid known Nazi war criminals as agents to provide intelligence about our enemies. Not long ago I read the book: "Hunting Evil: The Nazi War Criminals Who Escaped and the Quest to Bring Them to Justice by Guy Walters. And I recently purchased the book "Fugitives: A History of Nazi Mercenaries During the Cold War" by Danny Orbach after somebody on FR posted an article about it. I haven't read it yet. Still reading a large biography of Hitler by Joachim C. Fest. I've also got a bunch of other books I just purchased. One is "Rogue Heroes: The History of the SAS, Britain's Secret Special Forces Unit That Sabotaged the Nazis and Changed the Nature of War" by Ben Macintyre. The BBC just did a season of a war drama of the same name based on the book. It's been renewed for a second season.

I also bought, but haven't yet read "Terrible Victory: First Canadian Army and the Scheldt Estuary (Holland) Campaign: September 13 - November 6, 1944" by Mark Zuehlke. The Scheldt area was near where my father was born in 1904. Although my father had already come to the U.S. in 1912 with his brothers and their parents, I visited the area in 2006, and wanted to get a better understanding of the Canadians' struggles to liberate that area from the Nazis. My father's village of Schoondijke, was destroyed by allied bombing during the war. About the only thing that was still standing once the war ended, was the windmill, which I got to see on my visit. The family that owned it during the war, hid downed allied pilots, and helped them get back to allied lines.

41 posted on 12/22/2022 7:43:19 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: ConservativeMind

Most people who are placed into novel/abnormal situations will do things they are told to do, if the person telling them appears to have confident authority.


42 posted on 12/22/2022 8:21:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mass55th

R W Thompson’s ‘The 85 Days’ published in 1957 presents a clear combat narrative of the fighting to open the poer of Antwerp. Thompson was an outstanding and honest correspondent who was a participant in the Schelde fighting and he writes without a lot of hammy good war posturing.


43 posted on 12/22/2022 8:43:53 PM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: robowombat

Thanks for the info on the book. Just bought the Kindle version of it.


44 posted on 12/22/2022 8:52:40 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

Good. Read his book on the Battle of the Rhineland also and if you can ever find it his ‘Cry Korea’ which is anti=communist but bluntly candid as to how poorly much of the 8th Army performed in the opening months of the Korean War.


45 posted on 12/22/2022 9:10:58 PM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: robowombat

Thank you!! I’ve made a note of those books so I can look for them. Have a Merry Christmas, and a Happy and healthy New Year!!


46 posted on 12/22/2022 10:19:54 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: dfwgator

I know that’s not a serious question but the answer would be part of that time late ‘60’s, early ‘70’s, RR but look BEFORE and AFTER him - one of the Browns. We were lucky to have that breather in between! I lived in Sacramento at the time he was governor and saw the hate filled protestors around the Capitol as I worked downtown.


47 posted on 12/23/2022 6:41:23 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: artichokegrower

When I was in boot camp, Great Lakes NTC in 1969, our company was designated “experimental medical company” and were ordered to sign a release paper. You couldn’t disobey an order in boot camp back then and it ended up that our company got all these extra injections under the skin like the old tests for TB. The injection sites were then measured and the results recorded after a day or so. I never forgot that shit, and never fully trusted a government employee, military brass, scientist, or doctor after that. There is nothing on the net about any of these things being investigated or explained as far as I could find and no evidence of this listed on my shot card or medical papers I got when discharged.


48 posted on 12/23/2022 9:10:09 AM PST by Clarancebeaks
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To: mass55th

It’s worse than that. Among the first things they did, was start dosing everybody at the CIA with L.S.D., also lots of aerial tests of other chemical and bioweapons. Prisoners, and university students, the military, patrons of prostitutes, vagrants, etc. They burned all the records, conveniently, for much of their activities by the 1970s.

Another curious “development”, a coincidence no doubt, was the rise of “trauma based” conditioning brainwashing techniques. The lunatics “over there” discovered that one way to really mess with people, to reshape someone completely, is to rape and torture children and younger people.

Get people to completely divorce themselves from everything they had been taught about morals, right and wrong, everything.

This is a big contributor to the rise of Cult based behavior - a notable example being the Manson gang. Chuck was actually a pretty smart guy in some ways, for someone with no formal education after grade school to speak of. But he had help, he didn’t figure out all those techniques by himself, never in a million years. And he used trauma based conditioning in every facet possible. “How to Win Friends and Influence People” meets “Church of Satan”.


49 posted on 12/23/2022 10:09:26 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

For a so-called civilized country, there’s plenty of evil people in it that will prey upon others weaknesses, and inability to defend themselves. They are no better than the Nazis. I’m 75, and far from naive, but I never thought I’d see my country turn out the way it has.


50 posted on 12/23/2022 10:59:56 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Freedom4US

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


51 posted on 12/23/2022 11:01:27 AM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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