[tlozo]

Like in Saigon and Kabul, we'll know the war is over when planes and helicopters land in Kiev to pick what's left of Ukraine.

Or like in Afghanistan when the last Soviet soldiers left in February 1989.

[lodi90]

Russia can’t win so it’s useful idiot propagandists insist Ukraine must surrender. It such a typically Bolshevik gaslighting campaigning. Sadly, some weak and defeated American conservatives are so broken by domestic politics that they end up believing these Kremlin lies.