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Washington Is Prolonging Ukraine's Suffering -- Washington’s refusal to acknowledge Russia’s legitimate security interests in Ukraine and negotiate an end to this war is the path to protracted conflict and human suffering.
The American Conservative ^ | December 20, 2022 | Colonel Douglas MacGregor

Posted on 12/20/2022 1:59:12 AM PST by Cathi

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To: Cathi

“Americans are duped and apparently quite happy to stay that way.”

As long as we have something to lose, the status quo will remain.

Bread and circuses for the poor doesnt foment change either.


61 posted on 12/20/2022 5:57:04 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Guenevere

“Washington doesn’t want peace.”

Nor does its defense contractor puppet masters. Too much money being made.


62 posted on 12/20/2022 5:59:55 AM PST by qaz123
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BREAKING UPDATE: Multiple people dead after gas pipeline explodes in Russia’s Chuvashia
By Matthew Roscoe • 20 December 2022 • 14:25

BREAKING UPDATE: Multiple dead after gas pipeline EXPLODES in Russia’s Chuvashia. Image: Visegard24/Twitter

AS a result of a gas pipeline explosion in the Vurnar district of Chuvashia of Russia on Tuesday, December 20, multiple people have been killed, according to reports from Russia.

UPDATE 14.25 pm (December 20) – Russian state-controlled news outlet RIA reported that three people had died and one person had been injured as a result of an explosion on a gas pipeline in the Vurnarsky district of Chuvashia.

Olga Smirnova, head of the Kalininsky rural settlement, told RIA Novosti: “Three dead, one survived. Repair work was going on there.”

After videos of the blast began circulating and initial reports suggest that there had been no injuries, Smirnova added: “It was worse than in the video.

“In the village of Yambakhtino, it was impossible to go up to the windows – everything was hot. The explosion was very loud. The employees were frightened – we have a school and a kindergarten nearby, and they ran there – in case they had to be evacuated. Thank God, they managed it.”

ORIGINAL 12.40 pm (December 20) – A huge explosion has caused a massive fire in Russia’s Vurnar district of Chuvashia, as reported on Tuesday, December 20.

Multiple videos began circulating online showing the result of the gas pipeline explosion in the Vurnar district of Chuvashia of Russia.

The gas pipeline is reportedly the Urengoy – Pomary – Uzhgorod which is main pipeline that supplies Ukraine.


63 posted on 12/20/2022 6:04:09 AM PST by Cathi
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To: BabaOreally

Nice try. Lots of you guys, for such a small site, but whatever...


65 posted on 12/20/2022 6:16:34 AM PST by BobL
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To: qaz123
They had to add an extra shift at Fort Knox to print the money to send to Ukraine for the politicians, the defense contractors , and others to steal. As long as the crooks continue to make the money they have been making this “war” will continue to infinity. When the dirty money stops flowing the war will end.
67 posted on 12/20/2022 6:18:40 AM PST by sport
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To: Cathi

This war has nothing to do with any Putin paranoia about NATO. It’s about Putin’s desire to reabsorb Ukraine into a restored Russian Empire. That’s the only peace that Putin is interested in.


68 posted on 12/20/2022 6:36:45 AM PST by Salohcin
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To: Flick Lives

How about we start with cleaning our own house? The U.S. government is rife with corruption and influence.


How about we multi task? When did conservatives become so weak and unable to do two things at one time?


69 posted on 12/20/2022 6:40:53 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Cathi
That Russia has a legitimate security interest in Ukraine is absurd. There is simply no basis for the premise that NATO (which only has a 2% of GDP military spending target, and only Greece goes somewhat above 3%) would attack it unless Russia/Putin did. A more plausible reason would be than less than half the Russians in Donbas wish to be part of Russia, which matter does not justify Putin's war on all Ukraine.

However, dictator, poisoner Putin is right in opposing the liberalism of the Left - which is why the main reason latter supports the war as it wants no competition for its desired dictatorship - and Ukraine is wrong to move towards it, while China - the main military enemy - watches and learns as her budding comrade is weakened as is the USA.

The Left remains the major enemy of the USA as it once was in all its positive aspects. Judgment happens, even if it may not be this:

Nuclear Armageddon An EAS WW3 Scenario

70 posted on 12/20/2022 6:45:48 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Cathi
Image above from Nuclear Armageddon | An EAS WW3 Scenario https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGetPDrNHME
71 posted on 12/20/2022 6:47:16 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: FreshPrince

“How about we do both?”

____________________________________________________

How’s that strategy been working for ya in the US? I’m not sure that the US can walk straight (forget about adding the “chewing bubblegum part). Culturally the US is a mess. Protests haven’t worked. Voting hasn’t worked. And it’s yet to be seen whether cracking the stranglehold of social media will work. Perhaps it will, but right now things are looking awfully grim.


72 posted on 12/20/2022 7:01:25 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

“”My mother told me a few weeks ago LBJ was unpopular because he instituted the draft and Nixon was popular because he ended the draft.””

What??? The draft ran from 1940 through 1973, LBJ didn’t start it.


73 posted on 12/20/2022 7:03:52 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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🇷🇺🇮🇳 Russia and India will merge their tanker fleets.

The Indian government doesn’t care about European ‘price ceilings’ on Russian oil and will continue to buy the required quantity by supplying raw materials to Asia from Russia.

The advantages of creating a single fleet:

▪️The purchase price of oil for Asia will allow the Indians to take over the rental and insurance coverage.

▪️India will be able to buy oil and oil products from Russia without any restrictions.

▪️Asia will separate itself from Western ship insurance and gain independence from financial and transport services.

#Source (https://t.me/OstashkoNews/45316)


74 posted on 12/20/2022 7:16:06 AM PST by Cathi
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To: BabaOreally
how do you post photos here? if you need facts. i was only coming here to read since 2008, but finally decided it was time to weight in... what do you need for verification?

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But may all be use for Good, in the sight of God, and to His ultimate glory.

75 posted on 12/20/2022 7:16:36 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: BabaOreally

Did you get your 3 months of preps?


76 posted on 12/20/2022 7:18:22 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: BabaOreally

Keep it up, considering the European history of hunger and war, I don’t know why all Europeans aren’t survivalists.


78 posted on 12/20/2022 7:59:55 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: tlozo
"It's not about Russian security, no one is invading nuclear Russia.
Its whether Ukraine, and its 44 million people have the right to be a free nation or must they be enslaved by Putin."

Exactly right.

79 posted on 12/20/2022 8:40:42 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

How is it OUR job to spend money on Ukraine defense- they are not even a NATO member.


80 posted on 12/20/2022 8:42:30 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare its ? And the ambassador to Ukraineelf)
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