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Thailand warship capsizes leaving 31 sailors missing
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Posted on 12/19/2022 7:54:19 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: Starboard

These AA tub/gun things they designed were made so that anywhere they could find space (or build it on a sponson or something) they could simply lay out the area in chalk on the deck and weld the tub gun assembly into that if space allowed.

I got the distinct impression that they decided early on that the risk of being bombed was greater than the risk of capsizing!


21 posted on 12/19/2022 9:02:46 AM PST by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: Red Badger

Oh, Phuket!


22 posted on 12/19/2022 9:04:24 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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23 posted on 12/19/2022 9:04:48 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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24 posted on 12/19/2022 9:05:35 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Trueblackman

Why so much water suddenly—doesn’t seem to be disclosed. Did they hit something?


25 posted on 12/19/2022 9:10:59 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Retire, Spend Time With His Family.)
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To: rlmorel

I got the distinct impression that they decided early on that the risk of being bombed was greater than the risk of capsizing!

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That’s a fascinating way to look at it. Certainly wise to assess risk on a relative basis on some cases.

Very good point.


26 posted on 12/19/2022 9:56:54 AM PST by Starboard
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To: RedMonqey
A land lover question here!

So unfamiliar you didn't even know that the term is landlubber.

27 posted on 12/19/2022 10:09:07 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Starboard

IIRC, it DID come back in a few cases to bite them in Typhoon Cobra, but...that is a bit like coming down hard on the Japanese because they experienced a 9.0 earthquate that took out their nuclear plants.

Having a destroyer capsize in a typhoon doesn’t seem much like a stretch to me, even a well designed one!


28 posted on 12/19/2022 10:10:54 AM PST by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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To: BenLurkin

Probably either her intakes or her exhaust ports went under long enough to flood. They’re great ships but submarines they aren’t.


29 posted on 12/19/2022 10:22:07 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Starboard

Except those guns on the front are similar in functionality to the 5” deck guns on US Destroyers. They are to shell surface targets and don’t support AA. On the back, if I recall correctly there is a missile launcher that can support AA misses. Then there is the Harpoon launchers forward for the rear deck. The usage of these ships is anti-insurgency and anti ship missions. They pretty much stick to the Gulf of Thailand with some excursions to other countries.

Source of my date: personal experience with the RTN on this and other ships out of Sattahip Naval Base.


30 posted on 12/19/2022 10:32:09 AM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: pepsi_junkie; Trueblackman; Starboard

Thanks, read of ships getting capsized but not because of getting wet


31 posted on 12/19/2022 10:44:00 AM PST by RedMonqey
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To: higgmeister

I’m a landlocked hillbilly.
I’m good in a bass boat but that’s about as big a boat I’m a captain of.😜


32 posted on 12/19/2022 10:45:44 AM PST by RedMonqey
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Informative background. Thanks.

Do you know the captain and if he survived? If he did, he has some explaining to do at his Board of Inquiry.


33 posted on 12/19/2022 10:53:18 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: RedMonqey

difficult to pump out water without electronics.

sounds like someone left a hatch open and water flooded the inner compartments.


34 posted on 12/19/2022 11:33:27 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Joe Biden is the dementia riddled, no-filter grifter he's always been - just now, we get to see it.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines
RIP to those lost.

Except those guns on the front are similar in functionality to the 5” deck guns on US Destroyers. They are to shell surface targets and don’t support AA.

US Destroyers 5" guns are most certainly capable of air defense. Considering the Sukhothai had the WM-25 FCS (same as the USN MK-92 FCS), I'd be very surprised if those OTO Melara 76 mm guns were not capable of air defense.

35 posted on 12/19/2022 11:45:31 AM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: ETCM
You are correct and I probably should have said arent typically used for AA to be clearer. Thanks for pointing that out.
36 posted on 12/19/2022 12:15:24 PM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Good points. Thanks for your insights.


37 posted on 12/19/2022 1:05:13 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Right, definitely not the primary purpose.


38 posted on 12/19/2022 1:59:00 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Reno89519

You don’t get a list like that without something major going on. Moving fuel, water or ballast water.
A ship can sink fast but that size crew shoulda been able to handle the water unless they struck something and didn’t detect it, before the power failed.


39 posted on 12/19/2022 2:32:37 PM PST by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

Condolences shipmate.


40 posted on 12/19/2022 2:36:50 PM PST by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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