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General Zaluzhny, Ukraine at a fork in the road (TRANSCRIPT and link to 40 minute YOUTUBE video, my notes)
YOUTUBE ^ | December 16, 2022 | The Duran

Posted on 12/18/2022 1:37:44 PM PST by ransomnote

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POST #1 - EXCERPTS OF VIDEO TRANSCRIPT

TRANSCRIPT EXCERPTS:

"So you have Zaluzhny,
first of all he says that he's got 700 000 men in uniform
but only 200 000 of those have combat training that's exactly what Douglas
McGregor said by the way a short time ago

Douglas McGregor said that the Ukrainian Army the actual part of it
that it can fight is down to 190 000 men

Zaluzhny has just confirmed it. Zaluzhny
also confirms that he's running short of ammunition he's running short of
equipment he says that he needs 300 tanks five or eight hundred or so
infantry fighting vehicles uh 500 fresh
guns that he can't carry out an offensive towards militar with the two
brigades which is all that he's got in the area he's talking about his army
bleeding, and that was an actual word he used...."


"He said that the Russians can mobilize one and a half million men more
if they need to that's what he says he also said that he expects a big Russian
winter offensive he thinks apparently that it will happen in February...."


"Zelensky, Zaluzhny uh um um what's his what's the name of the
other man, Bresnikov, are all giving these interviews and saying these things and you can also see something else
that they are trapped by their own propaganda of success if you like I mean
they've been telling everybody for weeks and months we're winning the war we we've had the successful offensive in
Karkov we've had the successful offensive in Kherson we've got the million man army and all that kind of
thing and now of course they have to backtrack because the realities are now catching up on them they have to accept
that in fact things are not looking good on the contrary far from winning they
are actually losing and this is clearly a concerted interview it's it's been
agreed with The Economist which as you said correctly is very very deep into
neocon thinking it's a neocon publication through and through it's an attempt to get away from the propaganda
of success finally admit some of these realities...."


"....going all the way back to that Rand Corporation reporters I think it was 2019 you create all kinds of problems around

Russia's periphery and you drain Russian attention and weaken Russian
resources that and that of course was what Austin and Lincoln and all those people were
saying just a few months ago what's actually happening is that it's the
West's resources that are being drained it's the West's economies that are being
weakened and it is the worst that is being sucked into a conflict where of
course the risk it always faces now is that it will lose at any point I mean I
either they cut it off now and you know they will lose or they go in further and they will lose bigger"


"Energy prices are
going to start rising in 2023 so we have a long way to go before the
penny finally drops and people draw the correct conclusion for what Zaluzhny and the others are
saying in these interviews, which is that victory in Ukraine is impossible whatever
Zaluzhny says because the resources are required to achieve it are beyond any
rational limit...."


1 posted on 12/18/2022 1:37:45 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Cathi

PING


2 posted on 12/18/2022 1:38:09 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Ukraine put a fork in it???


3 posted on 12/18/2022 1:43:05 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: All

If you see a fork In the road , pick it up


4 posted on 12/18/2022 1:48:11 PM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: ransomnote

Good idea for arguments sake, jus sayn


5 posted on 12/18/2022 1:48:24 PM PST by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a>)
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To: Nextrush

touché!


6 posted on 12/18/2022 1:58:57 PM PST by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: ransomnote

It is coming apart. Wasnt for the Poles and Romanian contract fighters in the area, they wouldnt have nothing left.

The Poles are angling for western Ukraine..the Romanians for Moldova.

What happens is...if Ukraine collapses completely and Poland gets its wish and takes western Ukraine, then the Russians have on their borders exactly what they did not want. NATO.

Meanwhile, Turkey is trying to hold talks with Russia and Syria on that areas conflict leaving US Troops isolated.

Aint the SOB pig face bidet grand? He managed to eff up the entire global security in two and a half years.
And to top it all off, there are supporters of pig face on this site.


7 posted on 12/18/2022 2:03:18 PM PST by crz
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To: ransomnote

So basically the Ukraine dudes are mad Nazis and
the good guys are beating them up?

Why, though? If they want to be Nazis it’s not like they in
Ohio or Indiana. They on the other side of the planet.

Are they beating up your kinfolks?

And the Russians.. aren’t they acting a fool too?
How about we just let them work it out themselves, like God intended,
when He put them goobers on the other side of the planet.


8 posted on 12/18/2022 2:03:47 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: All; humblegunner

SOURCE OF ARTICLE: The Duran [QUESTIONABLE SOURCE]

Promotion of Russian propaganda.

Extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda & conspiracies. Poor or no sourcing to credible information with complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news.

i.e. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence

The Duran: Alexander Mercouris, Alex Christoforou, The New Atlas, iEarlGrey who lives in Russia, Douglas MacGregor, Andrei Martyanov,

https://www.stopfake.org/en/russian-media-columnist-alexander-mercouris-struck-off-over-claim-that-senior-law-lord-had-him-kidnapped/


9 posted on 12/18/2022 2:19:07 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: ransomnote
You're posting deceptive bs, because at no point is General Zaluzhny talking, its two unknown persons talking and you're tile is General Zaluzhny, Ukraine at a fork in the road. Pure deceptive click bait.
10 posted on 12/18/2022 2:33:11 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: ransomnote

Why would a general disclose their weaknesses to a public forum unless it was meant to trick the enemy?


11 posted on 12/18/2022 2:37:11 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: tlozo

 

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled General Zaluzhny, Ukraine at a fork in the road (TRANSCRIPT and link to 40 minute YOUTUBE video, my notes), tlozo wrote:
You're posting deceptive bs, because at no point is General Zaluzhny talking, its two unknown persons talking and you're tile is General Zaluzhny, Ukraine at a fork in the road. Pure deceptive click bait.

I'm required to use the actual title of the video, which I did. You don't like the wording? There's nothing I can do to get the video renamed.

Then, I specified that the video was about The Economist's interview with the two Ukrainian military leaders. First line of my post:


"ransomnote: This 40 minute video is an analysis of an interview in The Economist which featured General Zaluzhny, Colonel Syrskyi, and Zelenksy. "

This is not a deceptive post - it's just that you don't like the content. But The Economist's interviews with the Ukraine's military leaders exposes the months of lying and demands for money, money, money for a war the Ukraine cannot win, even according to its military leadership, unless NATO empties out it's inventories of weapons and soldiers to give to the Ukraine.


12 posted on 12/18/2022 2:38:10 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Your stopfake.org reference site is supported by Meta, AKA Facebook.

Meta/Facebook, the company that dumped 100’s of millions in the 2020 presidential election to destroy Trump. Meta, the company that has been sending private user info to the FBI.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/17/fbi-boss-wray-cant-be-sure-if-facebook-sending-agents-user-info/


13 posted on 12/18/2022 2:38:15 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: crz

The Poles are trying to punch above their weight, as usual.

Wait until Germany switches sides.


14 posted on 12/18/2022 2:40:50 PM PST by Jim Noble (I feel my heart beat faster any place in the neighborhood of the Astor)
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To: Raycpa

It’s not phrased as a weakness as much as it is phrased as a “give us support or we’ll lose”.

The narrators of the video say that it notifies NATO what they must do if they want the Ukraine to win. At the same time it places in the public eye the needless nature of continued fighting if the extensive aid needed is not forthcoming.

Many have lamented the loss of the Ukrainian men who are being conscripted and killed - they are improperly trained and equipped and their deaths are needless. It think the military leaders are pointing out there’s no gain just with status quo: Give us Arms or Quit the Field; fighting without massive additional support is pointless.


15 posted on 12/18/2022 2:41:41 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Its click bait using General Zaluzhny name as if its him being interviewed. As to it's just that you don't like the content I don't care what two nobodies on the "Duran(?)" think. Annoyed I was fooled to go to their site.
16 posted on 12/18/2022 2:42:15 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

 

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled General Zaluzhny, Ukraine at a fork in the road (TRANSCRIPT and link to 40 minute YOUTUBE video, my notes), UMCRevMom@aol.com wrote:

SOURCE OF ARTICLE: The Duran [QUESTIONABLE SOURCE]

Promotion of Russian propaganda.

Extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda & conspiracies. Poor or no sourcing to credible information with complete lack of transparency, and/or is fake news.

i.e. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for profit or influence

The Duran: Alexander Mercouris, Alex Christoforou, The New Atlas, iEarlGrey who lives in Russia, Douglas MacGregor, Andrei Martyanov,

https://www.stopfake.org/en/russian-media-columnist-alexander-mercouris-struck-off-over-claim-that-senior-law-lord-had-him-kidnapped/

The video analyzes the public statements of the Ukraine's military leaders in interviews with The Economist. Your stopfake website is custom made disinformation. Why not address the statements made by the Ukraine's military leaders. They are losing and they are telling the west GIVE US MORE AID NOW or we lose. Why not address those facts?

17 posted on 12/18/2022 2:45:11 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

You Tube computer generated transcripts are horrible - they are literal to the sound, but not to the actual wording - very often words, important words are omitted, words which change the entire meaning of what is being said.

I know because I have been transcribing these transcripts since April.

Further the linked YouTube video has two people obviously biased to Putin and aniti-Ukraine: Alexander Mercouris and Alex Christoforou; the General does not appear in the video.

Beware, this is a full on Pootie Toot propaganda piece.


18 posted on 12/18/2022 2:45:58 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: tlozo
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled General Zaluzhny, Ukraine at a fork in the road (TRANSCRIPT and link to 40 minute YOUTUBE video, my notes), tlozo wrote:
Its click bait using General Zaluzhny name as if its him being interviewed. As to it's just that you don't like the content I don't care what two nobodies on the "Duran(?)" think. Annoyed I was fooled to go to their site.

The interviewers are talking about what General Zaluzhny and the Colonel SAID in an interview in The Economist. Why don't you address the statements made by the Ukraine's military leaders? They are losing and they are telling the west GIVE US MORE AID NOW or we lose. Why not address those facts?

19 posted on 12/18/2022 2:51:43 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Russia can’t equip and train 100k troops.

1.5M is a complete and total joke.

In fact Russia’s trainers are in Ukraine fighting. Russia only has Belorussian trainers.

Russia probably has ~50k soldiers in Ukraine and 100k mobik cannon fodder.

Ukraine needs NATO war material, training and intelligence. Ukraine needs zero NATO soldiers in Ukraine.


20 posted on 12/18/2022 2:53:17 PM PST by Reaganez
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