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Computer question, RAM vs. NVMe SSD
Me | 12/16/2022 | Paul R.

Posted on 12/16/2022 4:14:02 PM PST by Paul R.

As a follow up to my question regarding my Dell 5490 laptop: If I exceed the present RAM capacity (8 GB), then the SSD page (swap) file comes into play. The present swap file is 1.25 GB, on the 256 GB NVMe "C" drive. Reads and writes to the SSD of course "wear" it gradually. I am guessing my best bet is to increase the RAM. But, how does that compare to putting in a bigger NVMe boot drive (which I plan to do anyway) and increasing the page file size?


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Note that my original thread about this machine (drives question) is here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4116476/posts

Thanks in advance!

1 posted on 12/16/2022 4:14:02 PM PST by Paul R.
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To: Paul R.

Well, I’m not quite sure why that doesn’t show as a hot link... Again:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4116476/posts


2 posted on 12/16/2022 4:16:04 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

It’s all good.


3 posted on 12/16/2022 4:17:15 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paul R.

Linux Mint....


4 posted on 12/16/2022 4:17:52 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Well... I will say, those NVMe drives are darn fast.


5 posted on 12/16/2022 4:19:00 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

Truff....


6 posted on 12/16/2022 4:21:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paul R.

More RAM Is better.

NVMe is faster than an HDD, but still slower than RAM

You can also turn off the page file if you have a lot of RAM


7 posted on 12/16/2022 4:22:07 PM PST by sloanrb
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To: Paul R.

Personally, I always go for more RAM than the OS needs. I hate page files. Yes NVMe is fast, depending on the generation.

But if you have enough SSD space for your file system, and you are thinking about upgrading, go with RAM.

On the other hand, if you are running out of SSD space, and you have to buy only one, get more SSD space.


8 posted on 12/16/2022 4:24:02 PM PST by laxcoach (The secret to happiness is a bait pen full of pinfish.)
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To: sloanrb

WINNER!


9 posted on 12/16/2022 4:25:50 PM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: Paul R.

Both, inflation is only going to make things worse.


10 posted on 12/16/2022 4:30:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paul R.

You always want more RAM, if tuck at 8 GB.

RAM disc memory is nice, but of limited use in the card format you listed. It is non-volatile, but so is an SSD, which is more flexible in its use.


11 posted on 12/16/2022 4:32:58 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Paul R.

a fool’s errand.

NVMe is 100x slower (at least) than DRAM.

Are you OK with your computer slowing by 100X?

Go with linux which is 2-3x more efficient than windows, or buy at least 16 GB of DRAM. You are paying the Windoz tax of inefficient use of DRAM.


12 posted on 12/16/2022 4:34:15 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: Paul R.

get the m.2 ssd

while your laptop might maybe work with 16gb ram, the manufacturer says 8gb is max.

Crucial says 16gb will work
https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/ct16g4sfd824a/ct11935334

but I got a 1tb crucial m.2 drive for 64$ the other day

I think this would speed your experience far more overall


13 posted on 12/16/2022 4:35:19 PM PST by algore
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To: Paul R.

Yes the flash memory does ‘wear’ but it does do ‘wear leveling’. Access to a specific block is only a logical block not the physical block, the translation is done by the controller. So the ‘wear’ is spread and the flash memory should last quite a while. As blocks become bad they don’t get used, as the drive ages more and more blocks go bad because there’s fewer blocks to read/write to...so they tend to go downhill very quickly once the ‘cascading failure’ begins - but can last a long time before that happens.

But, of course, as with any drive, always have your data backed up :)


14 posted on 12/16/2022 4:45:36 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Paul R.

I’m assuming that you run Windows. 8GB is marginally acceptable for daily use. You are already making heavy use of a paging file and degrading your SSD. Seriously move to 16GB or perhaps more. Increasing your page file will only make a very marginal difference and contribute to its early failure.

Very few things help windows as much as extra RAM. It really is part of the design of windows that makes it a memory pig.


15 posted on 12/16/2022 4:53:50 PM PST by JosephW (Lost women seek a new daddy by voting for left wing candidates, instead of having strong husbands.)
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To: Paul R.

The more RAM, the better. Typing this from an 8TB SSD machine with 64 GB of RAM. As always, you *must* make backups.


16 posted on 12/16/2022 4:56:29 PM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: Paul R.

Max out your RAM, and invest in a good SSD. The increase in performance will astound you.


17 posted on 12/16/2022 4:59:36 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: Paul R.

Always increase the RAM first, even SSD virtual memory has overhead and added latency. 8GB is low these days.


18 posted on 12/16/2022 5:03:11 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: Paul R.
Scheduled Optimization and heavy use of the page file on your system disc is bad for your SSD. Turn off scheduled optimization and get at least 16GB total RAM. If you still have heavy use of the page file you may have to increase the total to 32GB.

Also, I would search for Advanced System Settings and Performance, Visual Effects, Adjust for Best Performance, Apply. Think you will like that a lot.

19 posted on 12/16/2022 5:25:33 PM PST by CptnObvious
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To: fuzzylogic

Preserving your drive is really not going to benefit you much because by the time you actually wear it out it will have been in a closet for 8 years and you will be 2 full computers later.


20 posted on 12/16/2022 6:34:50 PM PST by webheart
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