[BobL]

Oh please, that was 1812. It was FAR EASIER for women to have kids back then, as they didn’t have to take them to karate, violin lessons, gymnastics, after-school learning, and save up for their college. Not to mention having to buy their kids the latest I-Phone and Gaming Console. And don’t even get me started with the ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT for all parents to keep up with the Jones’.

All they had to deal with was figuring out where the next meal would come from and how they would fight off the Indians, who they knew were only a mile or so from their settlement and would scalp them and enslave their kids.

Those parents had it FAR EASIER than today’s parents, who are forced to live under constant stress - unbearable stress for today’s parents.

[daniel1212]

Oh please, that was 1812. It was FAR EASIER for women to have kids back then, as they didn’t have to take them to karate, violin lessons, gymnastics, after-school learning, and save up for their college. Not to mention having to buy their kids the latest I-Phone and Gaming Console. And don’t even get me started with the ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT for all parents to keep up with the Jones’.

But you left out teaching kids from grade school (or earlier) about gender-neutrality, non-binary persons, reproductive freedom (to murder, etc.) And look what else they missed:

92% of HIV infections among men aged 13 to 24 was attributed to male-to-male sexual contact, and young gay and bisexual men accounted for 83% (6,385) of all new HIV diagnoses in people aged 13 to 24 in 2019, and 81% of diagnoses of HIV infection among all Adolescents and Young Adults.

In addition to which is the financial cost which has been going for decades:

The United States is expected to spend more than $26 billion annually on HIV. (https://www.healthline.com/health/hiv-aids/facts-statistics-infographic) 

 

CDC estimates indicate about 20 percent of the U.S. population – approximately one in five people in the U.S. – had an STI on any given day in 2018, and STIs acquired that year will cost the American healthcare system nearly $16 billion in healthcare costs alone. (https://www.cdc.gov/std/statistics/prevalence-2020-at-a-glance.htm) 

 

"STIs and their complications amount to about $16 billion annually in direct medical costs. HIV imposes the largest financial burden, costing $12.6 billion in direct medical costs, followed by HPV at $1.7 billion, chlamydia at $156.7 million, gonorrhea at $162.1 million, and syphilis at $39.9 million." (https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/STI-brief.pdf) 

"The estimated discounted lifetime cost for persons who become HIV infected at age 35 is $326,500 (60% for antiretroviral medications, 15% for other medications, 25% non-drug costs). [Undiscounted "mean lifetime costs are $597,300 ($4,200)" "Discounted costs are highlighted throughout because they represent economic costs that take into account time preferences of individuals and society and the opportunity cost of funds"] The Lifetime Medical Cost Savings from Preventing HIV in the United States

Costs also can include those for pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP) [which was] at more than $1,700 for 30 tablets (https://mosaicscience.com/story/hiv-prep-truvada-prevention-sti-std-lgbtqi-gay-condom-pride/).

The cost for  PrEP medication is about  2,000 a month, and which "Most health insurance plans, including Medicaid, cover." (https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/hiv-aids/prep) For any Medicaid insured HIV-negative adult 18 years of age or older patients, lab testing and prescription medication costs are 100% covered. (https://www.louisianahealthhub.org/teleprep/) 

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[jmacusa]

Actually having children in 1812 was fraught with peril. Kids died in childbirth, sometimes not long after or the mother died birthing the kid.

Heck in my hospital’s er last week a ‘’premie’’(premature) had to be airlifted out to a trauma center.