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I admit it: I was fooled by Zelensky and Ukraine
WND ^ | 12/08/2022 | Joseph Farrah

Posted on 12/08/2022 8:20:58 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski

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To: freedumb2003

Exactly my position from the beginning too. It’s the people getting screwed by their governments in both cases, and us as the third case.


61 posted on 12/08/2022 11:24:23 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Abraham Lincoln did the same during the American Civil War. So what?

Lincoln did nothing close to this. No comparison.


62 posted on 12/08/2022 11:28:29 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Putin has made clear, that he wishes for the destruction of both the U.S. dollar and its foundations.

A theory has existed among western intellectuals, that Russia “lost the cold war” because, among the reasons, Russia was compelled to try and keep pace with military and weapons development.

Unfortunately for the west, such a western arms race has been easily stoked by Putin, resulting in the development of incredibly expensive weapons systems that have a common flaw:

They are “combined arms” designed to work in a theater of western air superiority. Meaning, there is not any abundance of a second string of weapons with which to fall back upon. And, among the “combined arms” are several that are delicate and some that are impractical. Too many “systems” that are short-lived and require very expensive and highly-trained maintenance (and access to that, under combat conditions).

Such that, the west has a lot of holes in the air, in the land, and in the sea, into which money is poured.

Along come Ukraine, globalism, and “global warming,” into which money is poured.

Biden, Zelensky, and Putin all effectively being on the same side of provocative de-stabilization that weighs heavily against the efforts by ordinary, productive people who try to maintain the ability to earn their ways out of the holes and pitfalls - that are strewn across their paths: the historically-repeated, and typically disasterous public works by economic, financial, institutional, military, and society-shaping “experts.”


63 posted on 12/09/2022 12:25:03 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: MinorityRepublican

No, Lincoln never closed any churches in the Civil War.


64 posted on 12/09/2022 12:27:15 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

There are just simply to many stupid people in this world...and they vote.


65 posted on 12/09/2022 1:15:56 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I know Zelensky has a lot of fans here at FR who go on the attack whenever anything negative about him is posted. I wonder how many of the Zelenskyites are the same as the neo-cons who cheerlead for every endless Middle East war.


66 posted on 12/09/2022 1:23:30 AM PST by euram
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Ukraine has so much on Biden, Mitch, Romney, McCains, etc., that this admin will NEVER cut the $$$.

The corrupt US leadership, and IC, is being blackmailed by Ukraine.

Occam’s Razor.


67 posted on 12/09/2022 1:24:55 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (THE FBI INTERFERED IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!!!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I was on Ukraine’s side but he has turned into a tyrant and I want our money back


68 posted on 12/09/2022 1:59:25 AM PST by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: All

I’m still trying to figure out how Zelensky has time to run this war effort and appear as a doctor on New Amsterdam. By the way I find that show cringe-worthy and refuse to watch it, pretty much my feelings about the war too, we need to pressure Zelensky to settle so things can get back to normal for millions of people and if it rewards aggression, sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils, the suffering of millions of people for years to come is a pretty big thing vs losing a bit of territory full of conflicted people half of whom seem to want to be in Russia anyway.

Also we should be factoring in the not inconsiderable risk of a regional or global war developing out of some miscalculation (Putin seems to have made quite a few, but not the type that would invite massive retaliation).


69 posted on 12/09/2022 2:05:08 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (If Arizona held the Olympic Games, Usain Bolt would lose to Joe Biden)
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To: Gene Eric

Russia~Ukraine, the false war to drain the West’s arsenals and finances. Ukrainia, the money laundering capitol of corrupt western politicians. The idea of continued support by Resident Biden, especially after his corrupt interference as VP, highlights the whole scheme as a globalist plan to further deflate the West. Not one more cent to the Ukraine.


70 posted on 12/09/2022 2:09:39 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

For some perspective, it’s interesting to browse through this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe

Europeans have been fighting with each other for thousands of years. The current war is just a continuation of that pattern.

Endless wars? Pretty much.

Remember WWI was supposed to be “the war to end all wars”? How did that turn out?

Do we have a legitimate national interest in the current conflict that justifies pouring untold billions into this rathole? Biden certainly thinks so, as do hordes of Rats’n’RINOs seeking to keep the money laundry in operation.

There are no “good guys” in this conflict, neither Putin nor Zelenskyy deserve our support. Let them settle their territorial disputes on their own.


71 posted on 12/09/2022 3:00:25 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Fake news, fake pandemic, fake vaccine, fake election, fake president.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

It amazes me how the mass of men are so quickly swept up in the latest fervor like covid / masking / ukraine / gay marriage etc.

Zero critical thinking skills from the public. Is it any wonder the deep state CIA cabal holds the general public in contempt? So easily manipulated and so dogmatic once the latest public headline tells them what to think.

Putin is a good man who has encouraged Christianity as Russia came out of atheist communism. How many of our leaders would do the same? They are pushing atheism and islam and hedonism and degeneracy here.


72 posted on 12/09/2022 3:37:41 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: cranked; Jan_Sobieski
When you finally wake up and realize that you were seriously duped.....”I was fooled about Volodymyr Zelensky”.....

He believed a lie.
He didn't have the discernment to recognize it as such either.

Plutocrats. They're all plutocrats.

73 posted on 12/09/2022 3:57:57 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

So far I haven’t been wrong.

I didn’t see a good side in this war, except the poor people who worked and toiled everyday. They didn’t deserve this.

Not a fan of Ukraine or Russian leaders. Well….. not a fan of the US leadership in this conflict either. Three wrongs make for much misery and bloodshed.


74 posted on 12/09/2022 3:59:59 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Love to see this! Thanks for posting.


75 posted on 12/09/2022 4:04:19 AM PST by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: DannyTN

Says the US media run by Biden.

Ukraine has inflicted the horrors and they are still shelling civilians.


76 posted on 12/09/2022 4:06:15 AM PST by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Great post. Thanks for seeing the truth.


77 posted on 12/09/2022 4:07:23 AM PST by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Honestly, why doea anyone have this ridiculous affection for Zelensky or Putin? Why do people sit back and cheer on the robbery of our taxpayer dollars for Ukraine?
Biden dumped on the people left in Afghanistan and almost instantly decided to instigate (they are doing this all over the world by the way) this debacle in Ukraine. All for the sake of of creating conditions in our country and the west for the WEF takeover.

And we have goobers who applaud so called freedom fighters who are dying thinking they are fighting for freedom when the are just fighting for another cabal of slavemasters.

Americans need to wake upand take a good look at what is happening to themselves instead of slavishly rooting for a lost cause across the globe.
Biden, the Deep State and the WEF are sabotaging America as we speak.


78 posted on 12/09/2022 4:17:32 AM PST by dforest
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To: DesertRhino

Lincoln “ended slavery” with his proclamation in the South, after the South had seceded.

The proclamation was made to a Northern house and only “freed” Southern slaves.

The last slaves were freed in New Jersey, at the end of the war.


79 posted on 12/09/2022 4:22:01 AM PST by golux
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80 posted on 12/09/2022 4:37:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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