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To: Farcesensitive
***The Septuagint is more accurate and has Shem dead long before Abraham***

Interesting; as I said, it is controversial. Just as the Masorah was fashioned in the Christian era, there is no evidence that much of the Septuagint was also not translated in the Christian era. The Letter of Aristeas has been interpreted as a later forgery by some. German scholar Paul Kahle says The Septuagint, which originally had only the Torah, with its authorized form advocated in the Letter of Aristeas, emerged as a full version only in and for the Christian Church.

I have a copy of the Septuagint; the few times that I have sought the Greek rendering of a Hebrew word from the Masoretic text I have to say that I have been disappointed. Of course that is influenced by how I interpret the text so obviously my judgment is not objective.

It is not just the Masorah that interprets Shem as Melchizedek. Hebrew Streams, in its interpretation of Dead Sea Scroll 11Q13, mentions 'rabbinic tradition':

The Palestinian Targum (Targum of Jonathan ben Uzziel) on Genesis 14:18 says Melchizedek was “Shem the son of Noah, the king of Yerushalem.” Whether this means he was a reincarnation of Shem or the original Shem resurrected is unclear (the length of his given life would overlap that of Abraham). But the Shem/Melchizedek identification is common (BT Nedarim 32b {Babylonian Talmud}; Pirkei Rabbi Eliezer 8 and 27, 3; Midrash Numbers Rabbah 4, 8).

Even Martin Luther preferred the “Shem” identification. The New Testament, however, does not support this idea.


Of course these later Hebrew writings could have been influenced by the Masoretic text. 🤷‍♂️🤔🙃
1,714 posted on 12/12/2022 11:04:10 AM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Bob Ireland

This is an excellent paper on why the Septuagint is superior and the motives of the rabbis when creating the Masoretic texts after the time of Christ:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxo3o2jh88iemz0/A_Response_to_Gail_Riplinger_re_The_Art_of_Deceit....pdf?dl=0
(If the link doesn’t work just copy and paste it into a new tab)

I don’t want to slide the thread so if you want to continue discussing this we can do it at Timelessauthors.
The link to the thread:
https://timelessauthors.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6384

Other threads you may be interested in at TA:

How Long Were The Israelites In Egypt?
https://timelessauthors.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6380

Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood? (Masoretic Text vs Original Hebrew)
https://timelessauthors.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6376&p=54241&hilit=melchizedek#p54241
(in this thread I went back and forth but after finishing the paper in the first link I gave you I ended up siding with the OP video)

The Second Cainan - Luke Was Not a Liar
https://timelessauthors.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6507

Ancient manuscript dismissed as a fake since 1883 is actually the oldest known Biblical script, expert claims
https://timelessauthors.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=4577

Anyone else interested who is signed up or wants to sign up at TA is welcome as well.


1,761 posted on 12/12/2022 3:35:23 PM PST by Farcesensitive (K is coming)
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To: Bob Ireland

I forgot one:

Was There An Exodus from Egypt?
https://timelessauthors.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=6445

(yes and this proves it)


1,762 posted on 12/12/2022 3:39:18 PM PST by Farcesensitive (K is coming)
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