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To: DonaldC

RE: So they are denying something uncle joe already has admitted to?

These Biden apologosts do not deny that Joe admits to pushing for the firing of the prosecutor. However they say that the REASONS are not what most of Biden’s detractors claim.

Their excuse is Joe Biden pushed the then Ukrainian President to fire the prosecutor ( Viktor Shokin ) using the $1 Billion loan guarantee as leverage, NOT in order to save his son from investigation, but because he was concerned that the Prosecutor was not really going after corrupt politicians.

SEE HERE FOR INSTANCE:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

TITLE: Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

[EXCERPT]

It’s true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn’t because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn’t pursuing corruption among the country’s politicians.

As European and American diplomats pressed Ukraine to clean up its corruption, they focused on Shokin’s leadership of the Prosecutor General’s Office, which he took over in February 2015.

Mike Carpenter, who served as a foreign policy adviser to the then-vice president, told USA TODAY that Shokin “never went after any corrupt individuals at all” and “never prosecuted any high-profile cases of corruption.”

Charlie Kupchan, who was a special assistant to President Barack Obama and a senior director for European Affairs on the National Security Council, said anti-corruption efforts were “a big part of our diplomacy” with Ukraine, since “it was that corruption that allowed Russia to manipulate the country politically and economically.”

As a result, Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid as “a stick to move Ukraine forward,” Kupchan said. “He was acting alongside our European allies. Everybody was of a single mind that this prosecutor was not the right guy for the job.”

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6 posted on 12/04/2022 9:00:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

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Here’s the Truth, the IC and foreign policy advisers identified that Ukraine was dependent on Russia for Energy.

The Deepest and oldest Democrats started having meetings on
Legislation to fund Ukraine and provide them infrastructure and Energy that would not come from Russia. They packed the goodies and specifically tailored the Money (legislation) for Natural Gas consultants that could bring them this Energy Independence. The old guard Dems worked with Biden who Obama named as point man on Ukraine.

So, chosen Dem staffers, relatives, and Hunter was sent to Ukraine to get the money that the Dems funded, Ukraine funneled large parts of that back to Burisma (Hunter). To no one’s surprise, the Dems Huge aid package for Ukraine was a huge waste of money. After Burisma and the usual suspects took their money, nothing was really produced. Ukraine was still as dependent on Russia as before, but the US Debt as increased, as usual.

A US President or Vice President has never demanded a Foreign Prosecutor be fired before in History.

And before Ukraine took the bribe, the Ukraine whistleblower, Eric Ciaramella met with top Ukraine officials at the WH and asked them to allow the FBi to take over the Investigation of Hunter and Burisma. Ukraine did not agree to the Biden FBi solution, and weeks later, he goes on a plane with the promise of One Billion dollars in exchange for the firing of the Prosecutor. They were given six hours, or the Billion dollars offer would be withdrawn permanently.

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7 posted on 12/04/2022 9:23:07 PM PST by AnthonySoprano (Statute of Limitations is going to elapse on Hunter Biden )
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