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John Lennon: 'I'm Pretty Sick of Lousy Beatles Member' - 'Always Going to Dump Him'
Express ^ | Tue, Nov 29, 2022 | Callum Crumlish

Posted on 11/29/2022 10:38:32 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

In spite of Pete’s lack of drumming talent, I just can’t help but feel bad for Pete.

I mean, getting fired from the most iconic, legendary bands of all time in history just as that band was on the cusp of their international fame and fortune.

It’s not like he got fired from a band that would go on to have a few years of success only to fade into obscurity. He got fired from THE BEATLES, for crying out loud. An iconic band that whose name, music, fame, and fandom that still lives on, even decades after it broke up. He was so devastated, he actually attempted suicide once (saved in time be relatives).

Pete eventually went on to a 20 year career as a civil servant, helping unemployed people find jobs.

I know how many times he’s said he’s perfectly fine and happy with how things turned out for him (he earned millions in royalties from the beatles anthology cd).

But still, I can’t help but think there just had to be a few times when he’d be sitting in his civil service office, filling out paperwork, dealing with the daily drudgery of his 9-5 job, and think about The Beatles. How much more money they’re pulling in than him (I would think they earned more in one day than Pete earned in a lot of years). How much fame they have/had. How they’re living in the lap of luxury while he’s struggling to pay the rent and put food on the table for his family. If I were in Pete’s shoes back then, I know that’s what I’d be thinking about.


41 posted on 11/30/2022 5:04:56 AM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Instant karma, that is. What an insufferable d-bag. His arrogance did him in, IMO!


42 posted on 11/30/2022 5:09:45 AM PST by gr8eman (Abortion! It's just a murderous ghoul thing!)
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To: SaveFerris

How that’s Haw Haw funny. Funnier than my Instant Karma crack!


43 posted on 11/30/2022 5:11:06 AM PST by gr8eman (Abortion! It's just a murderous ghoul thing!)
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To: nickcarraway

Lennon complained about Pete Best’s drumming, yet Lennon’s the one who hooked up with Yoko Oh-No, who sings like a tortured cat.


44 posted on 11/30/2022 5:16:59 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Fake news, fake pandemic, fake vaccine, fake election, fake president.)
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Lennon was once asked if Ringo was the best drummer.

His response was, “Ringo is not even the best drummer in the Beatles.”

(He was referring to Paul’s ability to play any instrument well.)


45 posted on 11/30/2022 5:37:54 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: princeofdarkness

Didn’t he play with “The Originals”?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9xm3qnh1sck

(Pay special attention about 1:54)


46 posted on 11/30/2022 5:38:15 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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John wasn’t a nice guy. He attacked Paul and George in other interviews.


47 posted on 11/30/2022 5:50:54 AM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: lowbridge
In spite of Pete’s lack of drumming talent, I just can’t help but feel bad for Pete.

Pete came out OK. He got paid in his later years when the surviving Beatles released some anthology - Past Masters or something - which had some tracks he played on. Not bad for a guy who got fired for not being good enough at his job.
48 posted on 11/30/2022 6:03:34 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: quilterdebbie

“I get it that he was in a different place - successful musician - when Sean was born, instead of a musician building his career, when Julian was born. But why say that????”

Why? Because Lennon could be a real jerk to people. He seemed to shoot his mouth off long before he thought about what he was saying or going to say (e.g., the crack about being more popular than Jesus).


49 posted on 11/30/2022 7:02:57 AM PST by Smber (The smallest minority is the individual. Get the government off my back.)
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To: Smber

Truth.


50 posted on 11/30/2022 7:22:45 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: drSteve78

I got that deja vu feeling, again...


51 posted on 11/30/2022 7:31:31 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: nickcarraway
I get the impression Lennon would have been fun on Twitter had he still been around. Scary thought, he'd be 82 years old if he was. How quickly time passes.

Consider all the elderly women around you, they were all screaming for The Beatles back in 1964. Yes, they were in the crowds making so much noise that The Beatles had to give up touring in 1966 because they couldn't hear themselves anymore.

I'm not quite that old but I'm old enough to remember when everybody over the age of 60 hated, and I mean hated, rock music. Now, all the old people are fans of The Beatles, The Stones and even Jefferson Airplane.

52 posted on 11/30/2022 7:38:50 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,667,328 | Truth Social | 87,777,919 | Twitter | Trump Followers)
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To: princeofdarkness
Thanks for that great link. I watched 5 of his videos on succession. Of particular interest is the upsurge of old music being bought by youngsters. It made me think of how my children, 10 and 13, have an appreciation for many forms of music, which in turn led me to something.

I am wondering if the more active parents in the current uprising at school boards have a similar demographic to my one, namely, older parents with young children. I'm 57, having gone through the stages of conversion to conservatism (young liberal=heart, older conservative=brain) and have seen the fruits of, to be honest, easier than other aspects of child rearing, my labor pay. Just making comments musically and comparatively between current pop and older music, be it rock, soul, country, classical, even early rap by giving opportunities to both instead of saying "new music is shit, old music is great". By giving them the tools to make the decision themselves why, they make their own informed decision, and it gives them basis for other arguments as well to be thought of critically, as opposed to emotionally.

It then seems ironic that by pointing out the difference in, as Matt Williamson points out in a different video, "humanity" in comparing analog to digitally generated Pop, my explaination as emotion and heart to my children resonated with them, which allowed them to make a logical decision.

This is just speculation on my part, but I think this specific demographic in my age group is significant to the crux of MAGA. By pointing out the brainwashing to younger progeny in their ascent through what passes as a public education system, they can essentially "see it coming" and are better prepared. This can be applied to all art and culture forms; Movies (analog v digital), pre- v post enlightenment art and lit, etc. Teach them to evaluate the art form instead of the message, and you've really given them an actual anti-woke vaccine.

53 posted on 11/30/2022 7:39:55 AM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: nickcarraway

Lennon should leave and start his own band.
I’ll be following this to see what he does.


54 posted on 11/30/2022 7:42:24 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: BiteYourSelf

Ouch!


55 posted on 11/30/2022 7:47:55 AM PST by stevio (.)
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To: lowbridge

I’m glad to hear Pete finally got some royalty money thrown his way. He seemed like a nice guy who just didn’t catch the right breaks.


56 posted on 11/30/2022 7:51:53 AM PST by SamAdams76 (4,667,328 | Truth Social | 87,777,919 | Twitter | Trump Followers)
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To: Vermont Lt

Lennon was once asked if Ringo was the best drummer.

His response was, “Ringo is not even the best drummer in the Beatles.”

(He was referring to Paul’s ability to play any instrument well.)

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This story is not true. Has been debunked several times. Paul is/was a very good drummer (Back in the USSR - Ballad of John and Yoko for two). But there’s no record of John ever saying that.

But this is one of those urban legends that keeps getting repeated over and over and can never be fully put in the grave.


57 posted on 11/30/2022 8:46:55 AM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: nickcarraway

Years ago Saturday Night Live did a skit with Pete Best kicking and beating life size cut outs of Ringo.


58 posted on 11/30/2022 8:59:28 AM PST by 4yearlurker
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To: one guy in new jersey
He ended up becoming a magnificent groove drummer, displaying his inner creativity and ear for rhythm one by one across 300 or so Beatles songs over about 6-7 years, always responding to the material he was presented with by laying down that recognizable but never boring Ringo groove.

Agreed. He came up with some good grooves. It's interesting how folks sometimes talk about his unimaginative playing, when the reason the grooves seem so commonplace is because he originated them. I'd not call him a 'great' drummer in a fast/technical sense, but he was good, and did what was needed for the band. The Beatles later had some songs with really interesting time signatures, that you didn't hear in other places.

59 posted on 11/30/2022 9:09:35 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Clutch Martin

You’re a pos loser he brought much love into the world read his lyrics


60 posted on 11/30/2022 9:18:10 AM PST by toddausauras (Trump Lake 2024....Go down swinging!)
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