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To: nickcarraway

“I didn’t lie at all. Prove it. Everything I said was faxed. Maybe if you weren’t addicted to the mainstream media you’d wake up.”

You get your propaganda from Ann Coulter, and you can’t even understand this thread isn’t about that. You didn’t present numbers either. Trump inherited the open borders from Obama. The numbers were also very high under Obama. He tried working with both Democrats and Republicans to fix it and got the wall under the National Emergency Act. Biden inherited the a secure border.


19 posted on 11/28/2022 6:16:27 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP; nickcarraway
You get your propaganda from Ann Coulter, and you can’t even understand this thread isn’t about that. You didn’t present numbers either. Trump inherited the open borders from Obama. The numbers were also very high under Obama. He tried working with both Democrats and Republicans to fix it and got the wall under the National Emergency Act. Biden inherited the a secure border.

And NickCarraway already knew all those facts, so he is not an idiot, but he is dishonest.
20 posted on 11/28/2022 6:33:50 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: TakebackGOP; SoConPubbie
1. I haven't read Ann Coulter in years.

Trump inherited the open borders from Obama. The numbers were also very high under Obama.

If you were proficient in English, you would have been able to see that I said ALL president failed to stop illegal immigration. So, yes, Obama was bad on immigration. Bush, Clinton, Bush, and sadly Reagan didn't secure the border. [If you are going to live in this country, why don't learn the language?] Twice in the last ten years did illegal immigration go down sharply: One was during the financial crisis that started in 2008. Secondly, after the COVID lockdown in March 2020. Immigration went up even higher when Biden became president. I don't think either of those are good longterm solutions. Legal immigration did go down under Trump. The numbers were also very high under Obama. He tried working with both Democrats and Republicans to fix it and got the wall under the National Emergency Act. Biden inherited the a secure border.

He tried working with both Democrats and Republicans to fix it and

I think you are greatly exaggerating that. Show me? got the wall under the National Emergency Act.

LOL. What wall? Trump promised a solid wall. That never happened. He did replace some existing wall with larger slat walling, but not what he talked about before. And overall, a minority of the border has any kind of fencing.

Biden inherited the a secure border.

You can't be serious. Immigration went way up. Show me one article about how Biden was tearing down the wall. The U.S. border with Mexico has always been porous. The next time it is secure will be the first.

Do either of you have an understanding of conservative economics? If a country rewards/incentivizes a behavior, they will get more of it. Right now, the United States incentivizes illegal immigration. Since we do that, people will find a way to get here. Wall, or no wall. Why do you think there were two times illegal immigration went down and many illegals returned to Mexico? Because it was no longer worth it! In the 2008/2009 financial crisis existing and potential illegals realized it was not paying to be in the U.S. Same thing happened in March of 2020. With the lockdown, illegals realized it wasn't paying to come to the U.S. So, if the U.S. wants to have less illegals, it needs to changes it's laws and practices that make it attractive for people to come here illegally.

Why don't you write a letter to Thomas Sowell asking him?

26 posted on 11/28/2022 7:18:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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