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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; marktwain

Note of interest: Just grinding off the surface layer of metal does not erase the numbers. The impact of the numbering die leaves changes in the subsurface structure of the metal that can be used to discover the “erased” serial number.

So, anybody doing this, in some hypothetical un-free country, should first smack the crap out of the serial number with metal-working “center punches” and chisels. THEN grind off the mess.


10 posted on 11/16/2022 5:21:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Good advice. I'm good at woodworking (quite good actually) and have only a fleeting relationship with metal work. Though, I'd like to get into forging someday.

Thanks.

16 posted on 11/16/2022 6:21:40 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: Travis McGee

Better would be to mill out the piece of the frame where the serial number was, if the resulting hole does not compromise the structure of the frame.


17 posted on 11/16/2022 6:22:36 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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To: Travis McGee

True. Stamping distorts the grain structure of the underlying metal. If the spot is polished and then treated with acid, the number can often be read using a microscope.

I’ve occasionally seen a “ghost” serial number after machining away .010” to .015” of material when reworking an incorrectly marked piece. The characters showed as slightly raised figures. This effect resulted from localized work-hardening from the die’s impact.


25 posted on 11/16/2022 6:49:12 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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