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To: simpson96

I think hes one of the main people responsible ultimately because he’s the producer and the actor who pointed it at someone/direction rehearsing when maybe he could have rehearsed the move in a safer way. Hes got executive responsibility and personal negligence aiming it somewhere to test a move out that he could have aimed elsewhere.

That said, actors trust armorers and the other director on site who both cleared the weapon on set before handing it to him. Those two people are responsible as well, especially the armorer.

No actor who has been given a firing prop weapon that he’s seen/heard two other people, one being the armorer, say the weapon is clear, would think has an actual live round in it. Even a blank’s wadding can injure/kill if a person is within 10 feet and hit in certain places. But no way would any actor think after a weapon i handed to him by an armorer and told its clear by 2 people that theres a live round in it. I’d look because I just don’t trust anyone. But I can see most people not doing so.


10 posted on 11/12/2022 3:14:29 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Much as I think he’s a worthless POS your take is one of the most logical ones here. He won’t get of without some responsibility but he’s not solely responsible.


17 posted on 11/12/2022 3:45:36 PM PST by 3RIVRS
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To: Secret Agent Man
Makes no difference. Even if you SAW the previous possessor clear the weapon, when you receive it into your hands you clear it AGAIN. That is an absolute hard and fast rule, no exceptions.

I once cleared a Rem 870 after a friend handed it to me, and a shell popped out of the receiver. It apparently had hung up in the magazine. The look on my friend's face was a study.

19 posted on 11/12/2022 4:13:36 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
That said, actors trust armorers and the other director on site who both cleared the weapon on set before handing it to him.

And this case is an example of exactly why that should never be the case.

Anyone handed a gun should be trained in gun safety and their own responsibility to check it and clear it themselves, and to exercise proper gun safety protocol and NEVER point it at someone they don’t intend to shoot.

You can’t trust others to do what they are supposed to because we are all human and all make mistakes. If this was even a mistake.

27 posted on 11/12/2022 6:14:12 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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