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I was.

You said "No one forced the NBA, NHL, concert promoters, etc. etc. to shut down." I proved that to be false.

You said "their customers weren’t about to go out in public." I proved that to be false, too.

I told you anecdotally that the Toyota Center was full on March 7. You must know of all the stories of restaurants that began providing outdoor seating because of customer demand. You must know of all the stories of people trying to go to parks, like the Orthodox Jewish people who kept cutting the locks on their neighborhood parks in New York City.

So, yes, I was calling out your statement, but that's not saying that there weren't pockets of places that did it voluntarily. I think putting up the state of Texas against your small examples makes my point rather than yours.

-PJ

Easy guys, both good Freepers, you want the moment the inexplicable inevitable arrived, courtesy of a Chinese bioweapon? When St. John’s-Creighton was cancelled at halftime during the Big East tournament on March 12, 2020.

Big East officials were arguing with NCAA officials on a live mic, and the few people there made for the exits, I gotta tell you my gut tightened up right then and there, knowing we were in the deep end of the panic at that point.

Again, Chinese bioweapon, say it freely, say it often. Be good.

You said "No one forced the NBA, NHL, concert promoters, etc. etc. to shut down." I proved that to be false.

I showed that the NBA, NHL and the world's largest concert promoters chose to suspend operations on their own.

You said "their customers weren’t about to go out in public." I proved that to be false, too.

By claiming you went to a concert March 7th, before the pandemic really got going?

What I said was "If you look back to early/mid 2020 you’ll see all kinds of businesses voluntarily shutting down. If for no other reason than their customers weren’t about to go out in public.", which is undeniable. That doesn't mean the government didn't also shut some things down, and it doesn't mean no one still went out.

It does mean it wasn't all due to governmental lockdowns.

I think putting up the state of Texas against your small examples makes my point rather than yours.

Small examples like the NBA, NHL, the world's largest concert promotors, and how about the major theatre chains that closed nationwide - not because of government lockdowns?

It was a messy time but you can't seriously deny that a lot of businesses closed voluntarily and a lot of people avoided going out in public - voluntarily.