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Well, Putin wanted men to fight... 'Drunk' conscripts batter each other unconscious in huge brawl at training barracks in extraordinary leaked footage revealing Russian army chaos
Daily Mail ^ | Will Stewart

Posted on 10/31/2022 12:52:10 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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Russian army reaches for weapons from a previous era | Military Mind | TVP World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKOz7D5NtS4
Oct 31, 2022
Remember how we used to laugh at Russian T-62 tanks being literally the zombies of the battlefield? Wait until you see what Ukrainian forces recovered after they moved into former Russian-controlled territory. What you’re about to see is the Pulemyot Maxima PM1910. And yes, the “1910” is the model year. This a weapon that was in service when wars were fought using cavalry and Russia was a monarchy.


41 posted on 10/31/2022 5:32:19 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: jdsteel
But so far they’ve been doing it.

Huh? Russia left the electrical gird in place and concentrated on Donbass until three weeks. So, no, this is a new problem.

You can't win a way if the electric grid gets knocked out nor can you when you have no air defense and the other side owns the air space.

It's face reality.

42 posted on 10/31/2022 5:34:08 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Petrosius
You're clueless. What's been going on in Ukraine for eight years has been a civil war, one we set off by fomenting a revolution there in 2014 that removed a democratically elected President from office.

We trained, funded and enable neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists to persecute and exterminate the ethnic Russian population. The ethnic Russians in Donetsk and Lugansk have been the ones fighting off invaders and defending themselves. And, with Russian help, they were finally liberated and voted to become part of Russia.

43 posted on 10/31/2022 5:44:31 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus
wonderful source of 'real news'

..............

I fondly remember sewing up marine heads after their frequent rumbles in the 'animal house barracks. Train them to kill, then get drunk, what else can you do?

44 posted on 10/31/2022 5:47:45 PM PDT by norsky ( <P><img src=" "width=400"></img> <P> <a href= > </a)
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To: Kazan

“You’re clueless.”

ARMENIA —AZERBAIJAN— BELARUS— KAZAKHSTAN —KYRGYZSTAN— MOLDOVA-RUS S IAN FEDERATION-TAJIKISTAN-TURKMENISTAN— UZBEKISTAN-UKRAINE: AGREEMENTS ESTABLISHING THE COMMONWEALTH OF INDEPENDENT STATES*
[Done at Minsk, December 8, 1991,
and done at Alma Alta, December 21, 1991]
+Ci te as 31 I.L.M. 138 (1992)+
I.L.M. Background/Content Summary
On December 24, 1991, the Secretary-General of the United
Nations informed the member states that he had received a letter from the Permanent Representative of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics transmitting a letter from the President of the Russian Federation (RSFSR). The letter stated that “the membership of there Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics in the United Nations,, including the Security Council and all other organs and organizations of the United Nations system, is being continued by the
Russian Federation (RSFSR) with the support of the countries of the Commonwealth of Independent States.”

As of February 7, 1992, the United Nations Security Council
had received applications for admission to the United Nations from Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Applications are referred to the Committee on the Admission of New Members for examination and report. The Security Council then acts on the recommendation of the Committee and by resolution recommends to the General Assembly that the country be admitted to membership in the United Nations.
U.N. membership was recommended in all cases.

Belarus and the Ukraine have been U.N. members since 1945.
On September 17, 1991, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were
admitted as new members to the United Nations General Assembly.
The Baltic States and the ten former Soviet Republics have also become participants in the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe, with the Baltic States being admitted on September 10, 1991, and the others on January 30, 1992. Russia assumed the seat held by the former Soviet Union.”

https://www.venice.coe.int/webforms/documents/?pdf=CDL(1994)054-e


45 posted on 10/31/2022 6:06:30 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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Putin “Special Military Operation” invasion.

Putin owns this.

Ukraine has signed multiple agreements with Putin that he has has broken. Why do you trust Putin? Why sign another?

This invasion would NEVER have started if Putin only had honored the 1994 Budapest Declaration’s commitment to Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty and national unity.

“The Treaty on “Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and effectively abandoning Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine nuclear arsenal to Russia and Russia AGREED to:

1 -Respect the signatory’s independence and sovereignty in the EXISTING BORDERS.
2 -Refrain from the threat or the use of force against the signatory.
3 -Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by the signatory of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
4 -Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they “should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used”.
5 -Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against the signatory.
6 -Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments.”

IT IS WELL KNOWN GLOBALLY that PUTIN could STOP this INVASION any time by withdrawing military troops.


46 posted on 10/31/2022 6:15:02 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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Newly mobilised Russians are humiliated in the army. Cold and anti-sanitary conditions are common
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaeR5ZJO40k
Oct 29, 2022
“Russians were issued with old uniforms, which are very cold. It is forbidden to wear anything but that – it violates the service regulations. Although many troops bought their own clothes. Bulletproof vests are promised to be issued before being sent to the front line, but no one believes the command of the ‘elite’ unit. How the newly mobilised are preparing to go to war against Ukraine”


47 posted on 10/31/2022 8:31:07 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion, )
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To: Kazan

“ You can’t win a way if the electric grid gets knocked out nor can you when you have no air defense and the other side owns the air space.

It’s face reality.”

Fetterman…is that you???


48 posted on 11/01/2022 6:05:26 AM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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To: marcusmaximus
Not really.

Brawling draftees has been standard operating procedure for the Russian army for decades.

49 posted on 11/01/2022 6:36:27 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Proud member of the control group)
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To: jdsteel

Fetterman agrees with YOU, not me, about this war. Apply that comment to yourself.


50 posted on 11/01/2022 10:56:41 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Well, at least the words were correctly strung together on that post.


51 posted on 11/01/2022 4:19:29 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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