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To: wny

Right, it’s all propaganda on both sides in war. The media doesn’t know Putin’s intentions, but they judge him anyway.


6 posted on 10/21/2022 7:40:20 AM PDT by drierice
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To: drierice

—”The media doesn’t know Putin’s intentions, but they judge him anyway.”

‘You cannot judge a book by its cover.’

‘Actions speak louder than words.’


24 posted on 10/21/2022 7:57:00 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: drierice

I have spent a lot of time looking at all new sources about this so-called war and I can tell you right now western propaganda dwarfs anything you Get from third parties or Russian media

I have found sources outside of Western media to be 70-80% accurate where is western media is full-blown lies with very few exceptions

There is no question Russian media is fearful of Vladimir Putin But a free media does exist in Russia and Putin is frequently publicly ask very Porten questions about the progress of the war and the goals etc. I have watched nearly all of his press conferences and I can attest to this personally

Another little known fact amongst freepers

Russian media is much like our own media it is very liberal and antagonistic and at its core anti-Putin much like American media was anti-Trump although they are not nearly as vociferous in their accusations they are still liberalist and woke and do not like Putin‘s culture war views

Anybody here who takes the time to study these things and listen to something besides western propaganda from a media they normally don’t believe would know this

Right now things are not going very well for Ukraine but you would never know that from the news you were given

Every single occurrence in the special military operation is given a spin to benefit Zelenskyy without exception not to mention all the fabrications of heroes etc. that were proven to be bullshit

I do think Putin realized it was a mistake to attempt a limited war but given that the inhabitants of the Donbass are Russian sympathetic it did not make a lot of sense to bomb them into oblivion the way Ukraine forces do and he had to deal with media optics but I think that is over

What they are doing now with special drones and amassing large numbers of troops is something they could’ve done to begin with but I think they thought they could push Ukraine to the negotiation table without that but the United States and Great Britain stop that

Sources outside of western propaganda claim all of this happened when Russia withdrew from Kyiv months ago as a good faith gesture thinking they had a deal but the United States stopped it

Now Russia is mad

I still do not believe they will take all of the country but they will definitely take the Donbass and Odessa and probably that little oblast to the west of Odessa whose name always escapes me

Starts with a T

Ukraine has lost a lot of men no question of that and material but they have had some successes if you could call them that with our help they basically showed Russia a limited war was not going to work unfortunately that just means more dead people for something whose outcome has as in my opinion never really been a doubt it just depends on how much Russia wants to pay to win

Support for this war and for Vladimir Putin is very high in Russia like in the 80s


55 posted on 10/21/2022 8:50:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (Sound and Fury Republic now home to more than a few globalists who really love the mainstream media )
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