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To: Warriorposter
"Be sure to tell that to all the unfortunate folks who died on ventilators prior to the vax."

Be sure to tell that to all the unfortunate folks who died on ventilators prior to the vax because they weren't given Ivermectin or HCQ.

45 posted on 10/20/2022 4:18:46 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: lizma2

You got that right.


48 posted on 10/20/2022 4:51:49 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: lizma2

What we do know for a fact is that the vaccine makes the disease less serious if you get infected. Few people die now compared to the start and middle of the pandemic. Needless to say those that died had not received the as yet undiscovered vaccine.


51 posted on 10/20/2022 5:04:07 PM PDT by Warriorposter
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To: lizma2; Warriorposter; Qiviut; null and void; SeekAndFind; All

HCQ and Ivermectin both seem to be effective ionophores (something that changes the electric charge on something else to help it get into a cell) that help the virus stopper/killer ZINC enter infected cells more easily. I think we have Dr. Fauci to thank for eliminating ZINC from the treatment calculus.

On March 23, 2020, the White House received ccs addressed to Trump and Mark Meadows (Chief of Staff) of a letter addressed to many physicians by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. This letter said Dr. Z (a man with one lung after cancer) had studied Covid research from Korea and France carefully, and had been successfully treating his patients with ZINC, HCQ, and Azithromycin (an antibiotic to protect lungs from bacterial secondary infection). He urged early treatment before any testing had proven actual Covid illness because the treatment had a high degree of safety, and it was essential to prevent the virus from multiplying for too many days when it could then produce the deadly cytokine storms. This treatment cost about $20.

For about a week, President Trump and Fauci talked about this HCQ treatment and also mentioning ZINC. Then talk of zinc was dropped. On May 11, 2020, Fauci announced an NIH study of hospitalized Covid patients would be done using HCQ and Azithromycin. Since both ZINC and EARLY treatment were dropped from Dr. Z’s treatment protocol, this study was DESIGNED TO FAIL. Shortly thereafter, Fauci began promoting Remdesivir as a treatment for hospitalized Covid patients. This treatment cost about $3000, often paid by the government with OUR tax money. This study was never completed, and Remdesivir was not proven very effective. **Below is the best study I’ve seen of Dr. Z’s treatment with additional inputs.

https://regenerativemc.com/review-of-an-international-covid-study/ [This is a simplified summary of the study published by Cereus Journal of Medical Science.]

https://www.cureus.com/articles/76496-therapies-to-prevent-progression-of-covid-19-including-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-zinc-and-vitamin-d3-with-or-without-intravenous-vitamin-c-an-international-multicenter-randomized-trial [This is the original study as printed in Cereus Journal. IMPORTANT NOTE: This foreign study uses nmol/L (nanomols per liter) as the measure for blood Vitamin D. USA uses ngm/mL (nanograms per milliliter) as measure for blood Vitamin D. Divide nmol/L by 2.5 to get the US equivalent in ngm/mL.]

https://www.cureus.com/articles/76496-therapies-to-prevent-progression-of-covid-19-including-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-zinc-and-vitamin-d3-with-or-without-intravenous-vitamin-c-an-international-multicenter-randomized-trial/metrics [This link examines how many times people have accessed this study shown on maps by country, and by state in the US.]

Dr. Z subsequently modified his Protocol by recommending Ivermectin instead of HCQ (which occasionally has heart side effects), and Doxycycline rather than Azithromycin also as slightly safer. He also recommended Quercetin for those without a doctor’s access to Ivermectin or HCQ, as available over the counter. Panic press saying HCQ and Izithromycin were VERY dangerous began shortly after Dr. Fauci began touting his Remdesivir. President Trump apparently realized he had been tricked. When he returned from Walter Reed Hospital after his treatment for Covid he was talking about being treated with things like monoclonal antibodies and remdesivir. Finally he muttered in a low voice, “And I took ZINC.” I though he looked angry. I wish I could find that video again. He was walking from the helicopter to the White House.

In addition to Quercetin as an over the counter ionophore for zinc, there are others including EGCG (epigallocatechin-gallate), and possibly Resviratrol.

IMHO, the most important finding in the Cereus article was that NOT ONE of the patients chosen for the Covid study, and many had come to the hospital for other illnesses as well, had an OPTIMUM level of Vitamin D. Therefore it seems the easiest way to stay out of a hospital is to maintain an OPTIMUM LEVEL of blood Vitamin D. Shown overseas by 75 nmol/L or more of blood Vit. D, in USA 30 ngm/mL or more D, or the higher Kaiser Permanente Optimum Level of 50 to 80 ngm/mL.

What has become of Dr. Zelenko? He was run out of the country by negative media and public treatment. Recently he finally died in Israel, probably of his cancer and the cruel treatment he received for trying to save many lives with a low cost effective pre vaccine treatment. Say a prayer for him and those who did it to him!


73 posted on 10/27/2022 9:42:23 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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