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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You may refer me to anybody you want, but I have personally studied the issue and contended with people about it for a long time.

Again, there are those libertarians who want to live their lives and they will let you live their lives and there are those who claim to be libertarians but only want to use libertarians by driving it to its extremes in order to make the argument for socialism. If you do not understand this paragraph, you’re not understanding at all. The Koch Brothers are an example of this. They claim to be absolute libertarians, but want to drive libertarianism to the point where it gets debunked so that you beg for big government to protect you.

They are the sons of fascists. That should give you a clue as to their true idealogy. They aren’t believers in freedom, except for themselves.

All forms socialism are about self-salvation, whether it be socialism, fascism or communism. It is a fulfillment of II Tim 3:5


70 posted on 10/13/2022 9:25:54 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn.at It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: Jonty30
If the Koch brothers do not believe in the NAP, limited government, low taxes, low regulations, etc. then they are not libertarians.

If they are drag-queening as libertarians for some nefarious purpose then they are just Machiavellians.

I've always thought that a smart, resourceful, and persistent person could live as a libertarian in any society from anarchy to totalitarian. In a sense, Stalin lived like a libertarian in the Soviet Union because he could do whatever he wanted.

I would only count a person as a true libertarian if he wanted for others what he wanted for himself. The person "living as a libertarian" rather than being one is someone like McAfee who came into a bunch of money from his software and then went on one heck of a crazy spree, or someone like the Wolf of Wallstreet and his hanger-ons, or the former KGB agents who morphed into Russian oligarchs.

74 posted on 10/13/2022 9:57:12 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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