The Nord Stream 2 Pipeline Sabotage

Monkeywerxus ^ | 09/30/2022 | Monkeywerx

[Manic_Episode]

Flashbang and the bobble heads just crapped in the proverbial fan right while Pootypoot was using it for his Darth Vader impression.

Stolen elections have consequences.

I hope everyone is right with Jesus.

[blackdog]

And from Salon.

[Travis McGee]

Long ago I was “one of those guys” who would have been tasked with planning, leading, and executing this exact type of mission.

To recap: I’ve locked in and out of nuclear subs. I’ve been a passenger inside mini-subs (SDVs). I dived with air, mixed gas, and pure oxygen (shallow but no bubbles.) I’ve practiced with every kind of explosive above ground and underwater. I even cross-trained with the frogmen of Norway, Denmark and Germany, among others.

One thing I can say with 95% certainty, based on the repeatedly demonstrated caution of our military leadership: this kind of mission would NOT EVER rely on torpedoes dropped from a P-8 Poseidon long-range patrol aircraft, wich is basically a military 737. (In wartime, yes, they’d drop torps to try to destroy enemy subs. In peacetime, this would be a sledge hammer swung blindly in a china shop.)

Why not use the P-8 and air-dropped torpedoes for the pipeline mission? ASSURED CONTROL.

In the past, US Navy and NATO warships have, in training, fired medium and long-range munitions and had disastrous outcomes. Once, a USN ship fired a Sparrow missile and hit a Turkish warship by mistake. Turkish sailors were killed. WHOOPS! Another time a Tomahawk hit a Danish seaside villa (unoccupied, thankfully.) WHOOPS! I could list many, many other “whoopsies!” on this vein when medium or long range ordnance is used. (Theories about TWA Flt 800 also come to mind.)

Multiple torpedoes dropped from a 737 fall into this extremely high-risk category. When doing wartime ASW, you’ll drop all the torps you have going after one enemy sub, “stray” torpedoes be damned.

But in peacetime, as a covert operation weapon? NO WAY.

When you plonk a torpedo out of a USN 737 P-8 jet, there are myriad ways it can turn into a wrong-way “own goal” or a dud that goes aground on a beach on, say, Bornholm Island. Odds are much worse with 4 torpedoes. Not a good look in the world media if 2 or 3 out of 4 pipeline targets are exploded, but a “stray” USN torpedo is photographed next morning on a beach, or is later found, intact, during an investigation, near a pipeline.

To approve a peacetime covert operation like this, the military brass want assurance of a 99% success rate. With 4 targets, that means each weapon must be EXTREMELY reliable and under VERY close human control. With the ability to self-destruct on command at any point in the mission.

That’s why I show these images a lot. The Kearsarge Amphibious Ready Group spent the summer practicing “counter-mine warfare” in the western Baltic (a NATO lake).

Why is this significant? Because “counter mine warfare” can become “pipeline demolition” with a mere change in targeting. (In my old life, this kind of “training” was also known as “cover for action” in spook lingo.) Trust me, a modern enemy sea-mine the size of a refrigerator, half buried in silt, is MUCH harder to find than a pipeline, located on every chart to the meter!

Our military brass are VERY risk averse on controversial covert operations such as these. To sign off on this mission, they would demand that every aspect of the mission be practiced, recently. Training, plus “cover for action.” The high brass don’t just say, “Hell yeah! Why not! Roll the dice! What the hell! Go for it!”

They didn’t get to be peacetime admirals by taking wild risks. They are by nature risk-averse.

They’ll only sign off on a high-profile peacetime covert operation when they are sure their forces can do the mission and not get caught, or leave evidence behind.

Please watch the embedded 4 minute video in the first link, and the short YT video at the 2nd link. Then I’ll post again.

https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/2656237/baltops-50-site-for-experimental-mine-hunting-equipment/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kegFJgpNNmg&ab_channel=DefenseFlashNews

[EnderWiggin1970]

There is also the question of how the Kearsage was involved:

https://www.vesselmarinefinder.com/vessels/USS-Kearsarge-(LHD-3)/CURRENT-LOCATION/1/368702000

For whatever reason this website has been reporting its location on 9/21 ever since the sabotage, without updating. I assumed there was a delay involved since it was a military vessel, but to not update for well over a week? The Kearsage is an amphibious assault ship with dry well and personnel and equipment for undersea ops, SEAL deployment etc.

[EnderWiggin1970]

Jim Jones was a cult leader, not a Christian. I don't know anything about Baker, but Jimmy Swaggart has spent decades since repenting quietly and humbly doing a lot of good overseas since he ruined his US ministry in the 80's (I only stumbled across this last year). You aren't being honest with yourself when you rely on this sort of bigotry to justify your close-mindedness.

Granted, to be a Christian is to acknowledge oneself as a sinner in need of God's grace. Identifying someone as a Christian doesn't mean believing they are infallible in their aims or methods. But when someone has confidence in a all-powerful loving God with a moral standard, there's never any excuse to violate that standard "in order to serve Him better." That includes rushing to judgment or promoting a lie to serve some agenda.

[353FMG]

The oil industry use a 3-man sub in the Persian gulf to inspect undersea pipelines on a routine basis as far back as 1972.

[Travis McGee]

Think of the big unitary Mark 18 Kingfish in the photo below and the submunition-capable Archerfish as basically interchangeable. This is not to say that the Kingfish in the photo can be dropped using the exact Archerfish launcher shown in the 4X photo. What is interchangeable are their capabilities.

Over the past decade plus, our UUV capability has, no pun intended, exploded. Every year, new versions are introduced, tested, and sent out out to the fleet.

But the essential point is that our USN Sea Hawk helicopters, launched form the Kearsarge ARG (BALTOPS 2022 training) or from Gdansk Poland (we have USN Sea Hawks stationed there), can lower "counter-mine" UUVs.

In the 4X "Archerfish" example, that full-size munition-carrier is capable of sending out up to 4 smaller submunitions, each one guided by a fiber-optic cable and controlled second-by-second by an operator in the hovering Sea Hawk. They each have sonar, lights, and a camera to close in on their target and detonate it.

Importantly, instead of the system deploying 4 independently fiber-optic guided sub-munition UUVs, the system can deploy one big Mark 18 Kingfish size unitary munition, carrying 500+ # of high explosive.

The target is, in training, a refrigerator-size sea-floor sea-mine. A charged pipeline is a million times easier to find and destroy.

Very important point: These UUVs are not "dropped" from a P-8 Poseidon 737 at a thousand + feet altitude traveling at a minimum of 150 knots. These UUVs (NOT torpedoes) are LOWERED from a hovering helicopter into the water. A delicate fiber-optic cable must be carefully spooled out, to allow the UUV to be controlled from the helo.

These are NOT "drop and forget" ASW torpedoes. This is why I rule out the Monkeywerz P-8 hypothesis, and rule in the hovering Sea Hawk lowering down fiber-optic-controlled "counter-mine" UUVs theory.

[353FMG]

There is a growing movement to protect Biden in spite of all the evidence and in spite of his boastful interview that he would stop gasflow in pipeline under certain conditions. Karen Jean-Pierre should remember. She was quizzed on the subject.

[353FMG]

Not dangerous-to-all.

They have a mountain to hide in.

We don’t.

You think these clowns have any courage?

[353FMG]

Tsk,tsk, a little more reverence please.

[TChad]

Tucker Carlson is taking A LOT of heat for pointing out that the U.S. probably sabotaged the pipeline.

[VTenigma]

The monkey does some great work.

[citizen]

Tucker Carlson is taking A LOT of heat for pointing out that the U.S. probably sabotaged the pipeline.

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Tucker is right, imo.

And it's likely a plus for ratings. I hope the viewers will remember on voting day.

[gr8eman]

This was large underwater explosives. Not mines. IMO this would have to have been done by divers.

[House Atreides]

I certainly don’t know how the explosives were delivered to the pipelines and detonated. I have always thought/assumed that it would take a meticulous thorough investigation including much time gathering evidence scattered about the sea floor, largely in small fragments.

I am astounded that the Swedes have already ended their crime scene evidence collection. I guess we simply have to wait now for their findings.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4098826/posts?page=1#1

[Forward the Light Brigade]

OK, WE blew up the pipeline. Now the Ball is in Putin’s Court, what is he going to do? He has many things he can do to screw over the USA. He may try one, as a warning or maybe several together to topple the USA into a depression that will end aid to Ukraine. Or, he may do nothing and fuel German-European hate for the US as winter comes hard. This act has given Putin a tool to use against us.

[Squantos]

Good read ...... I have a question ..... what was the location and depth of the incident if it’s available ?

[Squantos]

Sections lie at a depth of around 80-110 metres.....

[Erik Latranyi]

If planned properly, it will never be conclusively proven who did this.

The US could use Russian equipment and Russia could use US equipment to implicate the other. That is common in these situations.

The same will apply if a tactical nuclear weapon is used. We will never know who actually deployed it. Each side will blame the other. They can use each other’s weapons as well to “stage” things.

So, this tinderbox is ready to be lit and ordinary people will never know the truth of who struck the match.