[DJ MacWoW]

No. This is not that forum.

Yes. This is that forum.

This is not the forum that looks down on my parents who crammed 7 of us into a '61 Lancer with no seat belts.

We crammed 8 into a 61 Olds 98. Those days are over. There are a LOT more cars on the road, flimsier cars and more accidents. Keeping children safe is part of a parents job.

You are defending a couple who continuously flout the law. Good job!

[Dr. Sivana]

We crammed 8 into a 61 Olds 98. Those days are over.

This is the forum that wants to bring a lot of aspects of those days back, including the Olds 98. I was safer in that car than most children are attending a compulsory public school.

There is no such thing as having "more children than you can afford" if government doesn't get involved, people are charitable, and the family learns to do without.

This is NOT the Margaret Sanger site. BTW, even if we played by those pretend NON-FR rules, sometimes comfortable people with large families fall into bad times.