It appears I may have been wrong about what I said in the first line of my comment #80. I based my statement on what I read in the link on that first line. See below from that link:
“Donald Trump loves submarines. And America’s submarine industry has every reason to love Trump back. The hawkish, protectionist president has vowed to grow the US Navy, particularly its submarine force, to its biggest size in decades.
“But experts agree there’s no realistic way the Trump administration can add the extra subs in time for the former reality television star to plausibly take credit for the build-up. Submarines are just too expensive and complex to build fast.
“To produce extra subs, Electric Boat in Connecticut and Newport News Shipbuilding in Virginia, the two shipyards that make all of America’s undersea combat vessels, will need to expand their facilities and add thousands of highly-skilled workers. Congress will need to approve much larger annual shipbuilding budgets, possibly for decades on end. Potentially several presidential administrations will need to sign off on those budgets.
“Slowly adding submarines is hard. Quickly adding them is “more than unrealistic,” in the words of one Congressional insider who works on naval issues but spoke on condition of anonymity. “It would be impossible.”
“It’s not clear Trump appreciates these hard truths. “Our Navy is now the smallest it’s been since, believe it or not, World War I,” Trump lamented while visiting the new aircraft carrier Gerald Ford at Newport News on March 2. “Don’t worry, it’s going to soon be the largest it’s been.”
“Trump was wrong. In fact, today the Navy possesses 275 frontline ships and its associated Military Sealift Command has its own 120 support ships, together roughly equaling the fleet the US possessed on the eve of World War II. And today’s ships are, on average, many times larger and obviously much more sophisticated than their equivalents were in 1940.
“To be the “largest it’s been,” the US Navy would have to grow to nearly 7,000 ships—its peak at the end of World War II. In arguing for a Navy, Trump mischaracterized the current fleet and created unrealistic expectations for the future fleet.”
I had based my initial statement on the information above, so I decided to see if I could find something more technical and statistical like this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia-class_submarine
The Virginia class submarines, our largest nuclear attack subs, have been in the works since around the Millenium. Various presidents have fought to get Congress to fund these new subs, and finally by 2012 some had been built. The funding fight has been ongoing and the building slow. There is nothin in that article about President Trump moving legislation to increase this kind of sub construction. There is a detailed chart showing names of subs, class type, dates laid down and Commisioned. If I read this correctly several were under construction when he entered office, several were Commissioned while he was in office, some were started while he was in office and Commissioned after he left, and possibly one was started and Commissioned while he was in office. But all these were being built based on work of prior administrations of both parties with plans to complete the number approved by 2060.
I don’t get the impression anything he did as President changed anything with regards to sub building. I know people find his confidence and showmanship interesting and exciting, but I think important military matters need to be handled more carefully. If not we end up with the crazy propaganda situation that has confused and angered FReepers who really care about what is happening to Ukraine and Russia, and the whole world.
What he did regarding encouraging our military to diversify the size of nuclear payloads was important. Now if Putin decides on a small nuke, we can respond with a small nuke, rather than blowing up the whole world.
To be fair about DJT and the Navy - in all likelihood at that time, he was expecting to get a second term where much of that might have been accomplished.
That he turned out to be “wrong” is more a function of the Democrat control of Congress and Presidency. IMHO
I don’t know why you went after Trump so hard anyway as an absolute liar, I hadn’t even paid attention to the part of his statement about building the subs, the purpose of posting his quote was about how he would deal with Putin on the endless threats of nuking the United States.
What about his statement of how to deal with Putin’s nuclear threat against America set you off on such an anti-Trump hostility attack?
And why do you ping a whole list of people for every little insignificant post you make?