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Earth is ‘well-hidden’ from extraterrestrial civilizations hunting for habitable planets
Physics World ^ | 7/22/2022 | Ian Randall

Posted on 09/28/2022 7:39:15 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: JustaTech
That is long enough for a single space-faring civilization with only sub-light travel, to probe and possibly colonize every planet in this galaxy, THOUSANDS OF TIMES OVER.

I appreciate your comments, but it seems to me that they haven't had 13 billion years to do it, any more than we have. They would have had to evolve and advance to some kind of super-advanced civilization themselves. And that takes billions of years if we're any example. And the fact we don't see them everywhere we look is further proof they have not had "long enough" to do it, or have had no interest in doing it. Perhaps attacks across many light years are so rare they're not worth fretting over. I certainly hope that is the case!

41 posted on 09/29/2022 1:10:08 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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Yep... That is why we do not yet see the planet the Arcturians originate from near Arcturus.


42 posted on 09/29/2022 3:55:46 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: LibWhacker

“They would have had to evolve and advance to some kind of super-advanced civilization themselves. And that takes billions of years if we’re any example.”

Just like our primitive tools to see them based on our own technology as an example, this perspective is just as primitive in perspective based on our own capabilities.

“Time and/or distance” needs to be completely removed from the perspective. They can jump into a portal anywhere in the universe, choose a time and place on the other side of the universe and exit from a portal there. Time and space is selective and the entering and exit of these portals can happen in just minutes.


43 posted on 09/29/2022 4:13:35 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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44 posted on 09/29/2022 5:11:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Jonty30

I post on FR to discuss the serious and to have fun. (More and more the latter.) I speculate that the universe finds us as entertaining to watch as whatever we create for ourselves.


45 posted on 09/29/2022 5:15:59 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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I’m certain there is a measure of truth to that. We are the rednecks of the universe.

Every inhabited planet probably has a variation in their native tongue, “Hey, hold much beer “


46 posted on 09/29/2022 5:23:07 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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I’m certain there is a measure of truth to that. We are the rednecks of the universe.

Every inhabited planet probably has a variation in their native tongue, “Hey, hold muh beer “


47 posted on 09/29/2022 5:23:46 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: Jonty30

One of my favorite CS Lewis novels is Out of the Silent Planet. I think it even used the word “quarantine” to describe why God would not allow the angels—oyarsa (sic?) in the story—were not allowed to visit the earth: it was the domain of Lucifer. I remember that the Bible says God cast Lucifer out of Heaven for rebelling against God. That’s what occurred to me after I reread your post and prompted my question.


48 posted on 09/29/2022 5:31:05 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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Too me, being a quarantined planet answers so many of my questions. I also see it as protective for us.

If Satan and his angels assume the identify of a planetary federation organization, we know by default that it is probably a deception.


49 posted on 09/29/2022 5:40:47 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want to see the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: LibWhacker

That reminds me of Baghdad Bob.


50 posted on 09/29/2022 6:23:19 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: LibWhacker

“And the fact we don’t see them everywhere we look is further proof they have not had “long enough” to do it”

Hard to know where to start with this—but let us keep us simple.

Any species with half a brain (including artificial intelligence btw) would follow the first rule of intelligence.

Hide from potential predators.

Any advanced civilization that failed to hide from us is rock stupid.

Only homo sapiens is dumb enough to flood the area with easily detectable radio waves.


51 posted on 09/29/2022 6:33:46 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Jonty30
I do think the sin issue is being allowed to play out here as an object lesson for the universe and history.

Liberals should take note that this also explains the origins of Climate Change aka Noah's Flood.

52 posted on 09/29/2022 7:13:34 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I was born into this world with nothing . . and I still have most of it .)
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To: LibWhacker

And that’s cuz the aliens are manning their spaceship windows 24/7 to see that they can see.


53 posted on 09/29/2022 7:21:09 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: LibWhacker

What alien would ever want to come here? We are likely the Tiajuana of the universe. 😆


54 posted on 09/29/2022 7:39:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: LibWhacker

There are actually 4 books in the trilogy with the last a fan book that ties up lose ends Cixun Liu did not.

The Three Body Problem;
Dark Forest;
Death’s End;

And:
The Redemption of Time
by Baoshu


55 posted on 09/29/2022 8:21:02 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Openurmind

“Time and/or distance” needs to be completely removed from the perspective. They can jump into a portal anywhere in the universe, choose a time and place on the other side of the universe and exit from a portal there. Time and space is selective and the entering and exit of these portals can happen in just minutes.


A similar idea was posited by James Clerk Maxwell in the 19th century in one of his 200 quaternions (special field equations). Maxwell also unified the theories of electricity and magnetism; he also advanced Kinetic gas theory, took the first color photograph, developed ways to analyze stress in a structure, and even laid the foundations of cybernetics.

A self-taught mathematician who lived with his mommy, Oliver Heaviside was disgusted by Maxwell’s’ field equations, calling them abominations, threw out all but 4 and converted those 4 to vector equations - giving us all we know of about the entire electromagnetic spectrum.


56 posted on 09/29/2022 8:35:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: LibWhacker

Microlensing or what if we are them that we are seeking one never knows.


57 posted on 09/29/2022 8:58:47 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: PIF

Thank you for sharing that. :)

Maybe Heaviside should not have scrapped it all and we would be a millennium ahead by now...


58 posted on 09/29/2022 9:30:49 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: DannyTN

Ming?


59 posted on 09/29/2022 10:10:57 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: glorgau

I found the chinese world view fascinating. It exposes more about how they think than they realized. Like when he said a political officer...the chinese don’t even realize that isn’t normal. And they allowed him to write about the massacre communists did to families when they took power along with their re-education camps.

To me I saw it as a great book with hard science in it. And it happened to be written by a chinese guy that had no real clue on how China is controlling info.

The only thing I didn’t like is the analogies. Apparently in China the only analogy they have is “It was like a dream”. Of they have a million ways to say it and in English we only have one.


60 posted on 09/29/2022 10:11:34 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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